Magnaride Delete - 2021 GTPE?

[markboris]

I do have a floor jack and stands but I'd rather have someone who knows what they're doing handle it. It would be a total learning experience for me as I've never done anything more complicated than ball joints and wheel bearings. I'll start looking for suspension shops but if your friends have a favorite shop, let me know, thx. Also, I'm rather fixated on the Rally springs but if there's some other setup that would give me a little more suspension travel with a softer ride, I'm all ears.

As Steve said above, the OEM Rally springs are the best option right now. They are the only springs that have a lower spring rate giving a softer ride.

I asked about tools you had in case you wanted to tackle it yourself I’d come help you out.

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[GT-Papa]

As Steve said above, the OEM Rally springs are the best option right now. They are the only springs that have a lower spring rate giving a softer ride.

I asked about tools you had in case you wanted to tackle it yourself I’d come help you out.

Very generous offer Mark! Thx.
Let me start gathering the costs on a set of springs and perhaps the Eibach bar (or is the stock Rally bar better here?) and we'll go from there. Or perhaps you already know the retail parts costs?
But first, Happy 4th of July weekend!

 

[markboris]

Very generous offer Mark! Thx.
Let me start gathering the costs on a set of springs and perhaps the Eibach bar (or is the stock Rally bar better here?) and we'll go from there. Or perhaps you already know the retail parts costs?
But first, Happy 4th of July weekend!

Happy Fourth to you to Tim!

You don’t want the OEM bars because they all have the vulcanized bushings. Eibach’s bars are on sale right now but out of stock. I’d order them to get the sale price.

https://eibach.com/product/E40-35-0...JPIpXc3eRqX4Nc-Eov94QXEzekn48c6-15OI9aDVfDhyc

Then all you need are the OEM Rally springs.
RK9Z-5310-A (Front) Approx $86 each
RK9Z-5560-B (Rear) Approx $ &89 each

 

[GT-Papa]

Select Application to View Specs:
2021-2025 Ford Mustang Mach-E Select, Route 1, Premium AWD | Extended Range, X
2021-2025 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT AWD | Excludes vehicles w/ MagneRide Damping System

Will this kit work with Mag-ride?

 

[GT-Papa]

@markboris
When I search the Eibach site for sway bars for the GT W/Mag-ride, it says not available ?

 

[markboris]

Select Application to View Specs:
2021-2025 Ford Mustang Mach-E Select, Route 1, Premium AWD | Extended Range, X
2021-2025 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT AWD | Excludes vehicles w/ MagneRide Damping System

Will this kit work with Mag-ride?

Tim, they work. Eibach never installed them on a GTPE so they cannot list that it works but it does. Every Mach-E no matter the trim use the same shape and mounting of the anti-sway bars. I ran them on my '21 GTPE and so did Steve and so did many others. I'm also running them on my '24 GTP and so are others and these all have the MagneRide damping system. It's all good.

 

[GT-Papa]

Tim, they work. Eibach never installed them on a GTPE so they cannot list that it works but it does. Every Mach-E no matter the trim use the same shape and mounting of the anti-sway bars. I ran them on my '21 GTPE and so did Steve and so did many others. I'm also running them on my '21 GTP and so are others and these all have the MagneRide damping system. It's all good.

Got it, thx.

 

[MME Farmer]

My 10 cents,

Do the cheap stuff first
Steeda sway bars front & rear
Switch the tires out to 255/45/20 105 XL and lower the pressure to 37psi
If you want to go extreme switch to 19" wheels and 245/50/19 105 XL @ 37psi. I personally haven t seen an advantage in ride quality between the 255/45/20 & 245/50/19. But the 19" wheels are more efficient

My brother in law has a GT and we put 255/45/20 Grand touring tires on @37psi he said even his wife says the car rides better and is less harsh.

Tires are designed to absorb some of the big bumps but at 39psi they transfer everything through the suspension.

I suppose switching to 255 vs 245's at 37psi will lower the efficiency? Curious, going to put a new set on now, just considering options.

 

[tuminatr]

I suppose switching to 255 vs 245's at 37psi will lower the efficiency? Curious, going to put a new set on now, just considering options.

It will a little but not much. An example out of spec reviews did a range test with the lucid air. They had the tires inflated 8psi under the manufacturer's recommendation and it made about a 10 mi difference in total range.

One of the perspective is people are recommending the rally springs and they will raise the ride height 1 3/4 to 2" that will affect range on the car too.

PM my brother in law he just made the change his username is noclue41

 

[markboris]

It will a little but not much. An example out of spec reviews did a range test with the lucid air. They had the tires inflated 8psi under the manufacturer's recommendation and it made about a 10 mi difference in total range.

One of the perspective is people are recommending the rally springs and they will raise the ride height 1 3/4 to 2" that will affect range on the car too.

PM my brother in law he just made the change his username is noclue41

Just wanted to mention, I have installed Rally springs on two GT's and the height was raised between 1 3/8" to 1 1/2". On a Premium AWD EX, it was raised barely 1". I am doing another GT in two weeks and will measure again.

 

[tuminatr]

Th

Just wanted to mention, I have installed Rally springs on two GT's and the height was raised between 1 3/8" to 1 1/2". On a Premium AWD EX, it was raised barely 1". I am doing another GT in two weeks and will measure again.

Thanks for the correction. That will still likely have a effect on range. But it's likely a softer ride too.

It would be interesting to test the difference in comfort and efficiency of rally springs vs sway bars & tires with lower pressure.

 

[markboris]

And about range, it’s just too difficult to test. I’ve installed so many lowering springs plus 3 sets of OEM Rally springs, one set of Eibach Rally springs, H&R lowering springs and all on various model Mach-E’s. AWD, RWD, std and EX batteries. All different make and model tires with different sizes and pressures. Then there is the terrain and the way everyone drives.

 

[giwu42]

Th

Thanks for the correction. That will still likely have a effect on range. But it's likely a softer ride too.

It would be interesting to test the difference in comfort and efficiency of rally springs vs sway bars & tires with lower pressure.

I personally did not notice any difference in range during city driving both before and after spring installation. On the highway it was perhaps 0.1 mi/kwh less efficient.

 

[MME Farmer]

It will a little but not much. An example out of spec reviews did a range test with the lucid air. They had the tires inflated 8psi under the manufacturer's recommendation and it made about a 10 mi difference in total range.

One of the perspective is people are recommending the rally springs and they will raise the ride height 1 3/4 to 2" that will affect range on the car too.

PM my brother in law he just made the change his username is noclue41

As mentioned in other post, my continentals are shot, but made over 50k. So far have another set coming, really liked everything, especially the traction, but feel I did give up 20 - 25 miles range. Would consider something else if I knew they'd be an improvement. Think it comes down to choosing traction, ride or range.

 

[tuminatr]

As mentioned in other post, my continentals are shot, but made over 50k. So far have another set coming, really liked everything, especially the traction, but feel I did give up 20 - 25 miles range. Would consider something else if I knew they'd be an improvement. Think it comes down to choosing traction, ride or range.

He did rave about the ride quality (so did his wife) and traction in the wet being much better than the Conti. He has only had them for about two weeks, so he has not had enough mileage to comment on range. When I ran the 255/45/20 it was a UHP summer, it was a negligible difference in range.

This is likely a good trade-off for your case. Pick a major brand Michelin, Conti, or Pirelli.
And I would do an all-weather like the Cross Climate 2 because you live in MN. The CC2 may have a 2% impact on range

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