I agree that the 80% 12kW cliff should be starting at 90% (80% of the 99kWh total). There are a few trials I want to try on the battery, such as plugging in at 85%. Can we trick the BMS?
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ChargePoint appears to be forging ahead and blazing their own path. With 75% market share, they can pretty much decide how they want to run their business. The things they can do with software is incredible. So far advanced compared to every one else that I have worked with so far.
I‘m actually totally fine with ChargePoint not supporting Plug and Charge. Before the pandemic, I used a ChargePoint commercial station at work every day. It was literally as simple as tapping my watch on the station before plugging in. You don’t even have to select the app first.
And when you program your route.....the car will ask if you plan to charge at each waypoint. Your answer matters....
Yeah. I enjoyed using their stuff.....especially the AC L2 stations. Now that I am in their vendor program I am learning so much more. I just need to be careful that I dont turn into a CP fanboy.
Interesting. I thought I read in that Norwegian article that the MME didn't precondition for charging like that, but I may have misread it. Or maybe they were just mistaken.
I completely agree. CP really seems to be thinking about real-world problems with L2 charging and is coming up with creative solutions. For example, the CP station at my office has 2 charging plugs and we currently have about 400 employees at that location. Competition for the plugs isn't huge yet, but it will go up as more employees get EVs. So now if I get to work and see that both plugs are already in use, I can simply join a waiting list through the CP app. When a plug becomes available, I get a push notification telling me that it's my turn. The assigned plug will be held for 15 minutes, and if somebody else tries to use it during that time, it will tell them that it's being held for a waitlister and how many minutes are left until the hold expires. If I don't plug in in 15 minutes, the hold is released. If I get the notification while I'm in a meeting and can't move my car right away, I can snooze it, which will skip my turn, move on to the next person on the waitlist, but put me back into the list so that I'm called on next. With so much focus on DCFC in the industry, I'm glad that companies like ChargePoint are still focusing on smart L2 solutions like this since I hope to do 95% of my charging at work.
Understand it has been a month and once you understand the problem it takes time to fix. Based on the advertisement and our sales contract I have came to the logical conclusion that it has to be in the final QC checks, has already been addressed or another announcement legally has to be forth coming. Seen a growing trend here, a number of times now, that prohibiting 88 KWh useable is in the manual ?. Agree that production car reviews will be exciting.
. I have been watching and waiting for affordable (at least not crazy) for a while now. Not really interested in waiting too much longer (fingers crossed as we sit in a black void and contemplate that it is only a pre-production model).
Plug and Charge is a nice to have convenience feature, it's not a must-have.
I have enough flexibility in what I'll put up with that I used Windows Phone long after I should have, realistically. so I will put up with a lot. ?
While that waitlist feature is a nice and useful feature to have, to me it fits more for DCFC. Especially mid-power (like 25-50 kW).
At present, the mere existence of a DCFC charger at the needed location far outweighs whether it's P&C or not. When on a road trip, we just want a working charger where we need it, regardless. If it's P&C, fine, but it's rarely gonna be the determining factor.
While that may be the case at home, that has not been my experience at the workplace. Most people do not plug in at empty, so it may only take a few hours to top it off. In addition, a lot of people leave during the day for lunch or to run errands, which also frees up the charging spot for the next person in line. Not to mention that half the vehicles plugged in at my office (including mine) are PHEVs that don't take more than 3 hours to fully charge from empty.
That starts getting into whether it's a needed charge vs just a convenience charge, I suppose. A PHEV has gas, so any charge away from home is a convenience charge. Still nice to do if easy, of course, but certainly not necessary. While some other people's charges truly are necessary. Like if say, they don't have home charging, or they only have one of the old BEVs that have a mere 60 miles of range or something. Or for someone that has a 100 mile commute each way.
