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Has it? Forked code would explain different version numbers and out of sequence. I have worked for multiple software companies over the last 20 years, all had a similar naming on releases, all had forked code and were supporting customers across versions and all were trying to get to a universal new single release that covered all.
I’m sure the numbers have some internal meaning, but where each update is not cumulative there will never be a “single release”.
 

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Looks like this is a 2021 update only so far. If you have a 2022 and get this, let us know.
I do and noted I got it, but didn't call out that I have a 2022 (Jan 2022 build).
 


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Has it? Forked code would explain different version numbers and out of sequence. I have worked for multiple software companies over the last 20 years, all had a similar naming on releases, all had forked code and were supporting customers across versions and all were trying to get to a universal new single release that covered all.
I don't think Ford is dealing with lots of code forks needing to come together.

As I understand it the power ups each include 1 or more module updates.

For example 3.6.1 included an update to the HVAC module.

It is entirely possible to receive 4.1.1 prior to or after 3.6.1. Order does not matter since 4.1.1 only includes an update to the GWM module.

As others have said the power up version numbers are really just reference numbers. A way to tag what modules and the associated module software version were bundled together in a single update. Module software versions are not in power up format though.

For power ups, sometimes there are dependencies and order matters. For example 4.1.1 has to come before 4.1.2 as the GWM module has to be updated before it is appropriate to update the APIM module.

There is no single release number that describes what software your car is running. To know what software your car is running you have to look at what version of software each individual module is running.

That is what FDRS does.

It queries each module for the software version installed(the software version is formated nothing like the power up version numbers), compares that to what is available for your VIN on the Ford servers and presents a list of modules that can be updated. Windows update for your car.

Using FDRS you are NOT applying power ups.

Sometimes those modules have a specific order in which the updates must occur and FDRS ensures you apply them in the correct order.

Sometimes the listed module is one that can only be updated via FDRS and not OTA so you could have a car with Power up 4.1.1 applied and the WACM updated and a car with power up 4.1.1 and the WACM needing an update.

Sometimes, just like the OTA, applying a module update makes additional module updates appear because that one module update was a prerequisite and now your car meets the requirements for the additional update(s).
 

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I’m just pumped this update still didn’t include a frunk button for job 1 owners. It gives them something to look forward to.
This current 4.x series of updates will not include a Frunk release for job 1 cars.
 

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I don't think Ford is dealing with lots of code forks needing to come together.

As I understand it the power ups each include 1 or more module updates.

For example 3.6.1 included an update to the HVAC module.

It is entirely possible to receive 4.1.1 prior to or after 3.6.1. Order does not matter since 4.1.1 only includes an update to the GWM module.

As others have said the power up version numbers are really just reference numbers. A way to tag what modules and the associated module software version were bundled together in a single update. Module software versions are not in power up format though.

For power ups, sometimes there are dependencies and order matters. For example 4.1.1 has to come before 4.1.2 as the GWM module has to be updated before it is appropriate to update the APIM module.

There is no single release number that describes what software your car is running. To know what software your car is running you have to look at what version of software each individual module is running.

That is what FDRS does.

It queries each module for the software version installed(the software version is formated nothing like the power up version numbers), compares that to what is available for your VIN on the Ford servers and presents a list of modules that can be updated. Windows update for your car.

Using FDRS you are NOT applying power ups.

Sometimes those modules have a specific order in which the updates must occur and FDRS ensures you apply them in the correct order.

Sometimes the listed module is one that can only be updated via FDRS and not OTA so you could have a car with Power up 4.1.1 applied and the WACM updated and a car with power up 4.1.1 and the WACM needing an update.

Sometimes, just like the OTA, applying a module update makes additional module updates appear because that one module update was a prerequisite and now your car meets the requirements for the additional update(s).
Ford really needs to step up and ship updates quicker to the folks that are version behind, and then streamline the entire process to be more like Tesla and Rivian. Monthly updates, hotfixes, improvements, etc. They really have no excuses to NOT implement a more modern strategy.
 

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I don't think Ford is dealing with lots of code forks needing to come together.

As I understand it the power ups each include 1 or more module updates.

For example 3.6.1 included an update to the HVAC module.

It is entirely possible to receive 4.1.1 prior to or after 3.6.1. Order does not matter since 4.1.1 only includes an update to the GWM module.

As others have said the power up version numbers are really just reference numbers. A way to tag what modules and the associated module software version were bundled together in a single update. Module software versions are not in power up format though.

For power ups, sometimes there are dependencies and order matters. For example 4.1.1 has to come before 4.1.2 as the GWM module has to be updated before it is appropriate to update the APIM module.

There is no single release number that describes what software your car is running. To know what software your car is running you have to look at what version of software each individual module is running.

That is what FDRS does.

It queries each module for the software version installed(the software version is formated nothing like the power up version numbers), compares that to what is available for your VIN on the Ford servers and presents a list of modules that can be updated. Windows update for your car.

Using FDRS you are NOT applying power ups.

Sometimes those modules have a specific order in which the updates must occur and FDRS ensures you apply them in the correct order.

Sometimes the listed module is one that can only be updated via FDRS and not OTA so you could have a car with Power up 4.1.1 applied and the WACM updated and a car with power up 4.1.1 and the WACM needing an update.

Sometimes, just like the OTA, applying a module update makes additional module updates appear because that one module update was a prerequisite and now your car meets the requirements for the additional update(s).
I see, well maybe 5x will be an umbrella that incorporates all available module updates for your car into a single version number and OTA that gets pushed to all vehicles. so we all then are on parity
 

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This current 4.x series of updates will not include a Frunk release for job 1 cars.
And in other breaking news: it’s warm and sunny in Hilo in the winter months
 

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Got it today.

Also have a new (I think new) bug.

I click “charge to 100%” in FordPass and the target charge still says “90%.”

Very minor bug since it still seems to be charging to 100%.
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Lol that’s a current bug, I have that happen now. It’s all FordPass and Ford servers.
 

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And in other breaking news: it’s warm and sunny in Hilo in the winter months
America's wettest city? It was last sunny there on April 13th, 1987. :p
 

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Ford really needs to step up and ship updates quicker to the folks that are version behind, and then streamline the entire process to be more like Tesla and Rivian. Monthly updates, hotfixes, improvements, etc. They really have no excuses to NOT implement a more modern strategy.
I recommend they go the opposite direction: annual update for everyone who wants it. Well-designed, well-tested, and rock-solid. Once a year.

How much wailing and gnashing of teeth could be avoided?
 

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America's wettest city? It was last sunny there on April 13th, 1987. :p
I just picked the name of a Hawaiian city at random. I thought all of Hawaii was warm and sunny. How would I know? I’ve only been there once. And that was for work. All I saw was the Hilton Hawaiian Village, Waikiki (spelling), the USS Arizona, and the airport. ?
 

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I just picked the name of a Hawaiian city at random. I thought all of Hawaii was warm and sunny. How would I know? I’ve only been there once. And that was for work. All I saw was the Hilton Hawaiian Village, Waikiki (spelling), the USS Arizona, and the airport. ?
Hilo is the second largest city in the state. It is the wettest city in the country and averages 221 overcast (and rainy) days per year. About 45 miles to downtown from our house, give or take. That's what happens when you put a city on the Windward coast and at the base of a nearly 14,000 ft mountain. ;)
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