Great Mach-E GT PE Drag Strip Testing - 12 Runs!

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

You can have fun all night and not worry about getting home.

tbf that depends on the kind of fun you're having.

wait I see the context now never mind

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[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Losing 4/10ths at 70% state of charge isn’t good, that’s horrible.

Oh great, another Tesla comparison……. But they don’t lose that much until 20% charge.

Agreed. 4/10ths in the 1/4 is an eon when you consider consistent ICE cars routinely stay within 1/10th when bracket racing. Not much danger of a GT or any EV breaking out on a true dial in to be honest.

And to be fair, they had 2 guys driving it and the one didn’t explain his launch technique so who knows if SOC was the only variable causing the 4/10th spread.

 

[phil]

I suspect the next step is the implementation of a launch control mode.

The next step? According to my calculations, there have been zero steps to date for any software performance upgrade of the electric Mustang. The next step will be the first step. If it ever happens.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Its a computer on wheels. It logs everything. A simple button on the Drive Mode screen that says "Track Mode" that when flipped, pops up a disclaimer you have to hit OK on that says "if a battery fault is found due to excessive heat while using this mode, it voids your warranty. Do you understand these risks?" and presto. You have all the power available and Ford protects themselves.

Some will agree with this for sure. But, Ford and GM routinely honor warranty claims on Mustang GTs and Camaro SS’ that have been tracked as long as the failures aren’t due to other modifications. Because when you sell cars with Performance Pack 1/2 or 1LE which are designated for track use you’re explicitly telling customers the car is designed for that use case. The GT and especially PE fall in that category based on the track-based marketing points/videos. And the GT badges adorning them. Stating you’ll outright void the warranty if a fault occurs in Track mode practically renders the mode moot.

I’d be ok if the Track/Drag Race mode said something to the effect of “Accelerated battery degradation from repeated use of Track/Drag Race modes can cause battery capacity loss greater than the Gradual Capacity loss covered in the 8 yr/100,000 mile warranty period. Accelerated capacity loss may not be covered.”

But, you’re right, Ford can handle this rather easily.

 

[jdunc87]

too funny, I knew this video would be coming soon. I was there that night for this. Ive ridden in that MME GTPE specifically LOL. I work for Rick and was at that track night with my regular mustang Gt

 

[Frankie]

Was the lackluster trap speed even mentioned anywhere in the video? Not sure what this specific guy's background is but it seems like with EVs you get a lot of reviews from "EV Guys" rather than regular "Car Guys" which is fine for your regular Model Y or regular Mach-E but seems to be a little lacking in the actual understanding and analysis of the performance models.

Like, the "elephant in the room" isn't running 3.69 at 88% SoC instead of 3.54, it's trapping ~10 mph slower than the Tesla and ~6 mph slower than the Volvo.

 

[Mach1E]

Agreed. 4/10ths in the 1/4 is an eon when you consider consistent ICE cars routinely stay within 1/10th when bracket racing. Not much danger of a GT or any EV breaking out on a true dial in to be honest.

And to be fair, they had 2 guys driving it and the one didn’t explain his launch technique so who knows if SOC was the only variable causing the 4/10th spread.

It didn’t seem like they were doing anything other than just flooring it.

Judging from the trap speeds, by the last run he lost about 4 mph as well.

That’s like 60hp on a vehicle this heavy.

I’m a little scared to see what kinda power loss there is at 50%, 30%, 20% charge etc.

 

[Frankie]

Fwiw I ran a 0-60 the other day at like 55% SoC and I didn't dragy it or anything but it still felt pretty sprightly. It felt like at least in the 4 second range, maybe even low 4 second.

I don't really care what it is at 20 or 30%. Yeah, my cars gonna be a turd at the end of a road trip until I get a chance to plug it in, big deal. I think down to 50 though is still important and most testing should be done at around 75 or 80%. Eff people that think publishing all your metrics at 100% SoC is a reasonable thing to do. Publish everything would be best, 100, 75, 50, 25, 10 but if you're only going to publish one number it should really be like 80% not 100.

 

[Scooby24]

The next step? According to my calculations, there have been zero steps to date for any software performance upgrade of the electric Mustang. The next step will be the first step. If it ever happens.

You don't have to be quite so literal, Debbie.

The usable battery capacity size is a performance upgrade (range performance) that is coming.

The charge rate above 80% (to 90%) is going to be improving.

The GT's are just getting delivered. Let's show a little bit of patience.

 

[jdunc87]

its pretty crazy how obvious it is around 70ish mph it just hits a brick wall and essentially stops accelrating, its quite obvious in person too.

 

[harrysiii]

its pretty crazy how obvious it is around 70ish mph it just hits a brick wall and essentially stops accelrating, its quite obvious in person too.

yup. How slowly it accelerated once I hit over about 75 in the 1/4 mile was just awful. On the highway it flies through the 75+ range with ease.

 

[phil]

You don't have to be quite so literal, Debbie.

Be as figurative as you like - the number of performance upgrades implemented to date is still zero.

Pollyanna is quite pleasant, but Debbie is often wiser. In this case, we shall see. But if my GT comes in next week, I will not be buying in the hope that Ford someday makes good on some whispered non-promises of improvements at some unspecified future date. Tesla buyers were promised (actually promised, not hinted) full self-driving five years ago this very day (Happy Anniversary!). How's that working out so far?

 

[Mach1E]

You don't have to be quite so literal, Debbie.

The usable battery capacity size is a performance upgrade (range performance) that is coming.

The charge rate above 80% (to 90%) is going to be improving.

The GT's are just getting delivered. Let's show a little bit of patience.

My GTPE will be delivered in the next couple weeks and Ford hasn’t said squat.

I would feel better if I either knew that they are or aren’t going to do something. The uncertainty is frustrating.

It would be easier to be patient if we knew there was actually something concrete we are waiting for, and didn’t have to make a buying decision before that happens.

 

[buzznwood]

its pretty crazy how obvious it is around 70ish mph it just hits a brick wall and essentially stops accelrating, its quite obvious in person too.

I have to assume at some point even non performance car people are going to notice and wander what is up with it as it is pretty night and day, I would not be surprised if when some official non overboost power figure is finally disclosed it is not much different from the AWD premium.

 

[jdunc87]

I have to assume at some point even non performance car people are going to notice and wander what is up with it as it is pretty night and day, I would not be surprised if when some official non overboost power figure is finally disclosed it is not much different from the AWD premium.

somewhere on the forum it says after 5 seconds it no longer delivers full power.

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