Order prior to price increase, increased in price

[RickMachE]

Nobody that ordered with a lower price is going to pay more, except those who had their 2021s rolled into 2022s, and already knew of a small price increase, with a $750 rebate that more than offset the increase, so they'll pay net less.

Those wasting their time calling uninformed dealers prior to a car even being made are worrying for no reason. You should be joyous, you're getting a $2,000 discount on a car so it's worth more before you even own it.

Find other things to worry about, like your range in cold weather... ? ?

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[mmap]

I did a while ago. I also have a signed order form with the details and that price. And email commitment from dealer that this will be purchased via X-plan and no extras added by them (alarm, coatings, etc). I should be covered.

The X-Plan price is set by Ford and is on the invoice of the car. If Ford is really raising the price of these orders then the invoice is going to reflect that, and you'll have to pay the newer X-plan price.

 

[RickMachE]

The X-Plan price is set by Ford and is on the invoice of the car. If Ford is really raising the price of these orders then the invoice is going to reflect that, and you'll have to pay the newer X-plan price.

Totally disagree. It will be based on the price when the vehicle was ordered, i.e. the DORA (Dealer Order Receipt Acknowledgement). Are you a Ford executive that knows something other than this?

 

[mmap]

Are you a Ford executive that knows something other than this?

lol, no, just a guy on the internet posting speculation. But the X-plan program description talks about the invoice, not DORA.

This doesn't mean that the order could come with the "wrong" invoice, and the dealer work with ford to correct it or something. But that is predicated on Ford intending to honor the price at the time of order, which as was pointed out in this thread, they have not actually commented on. Maybe they are intending to do that and this is just a website/ordering system glitch. Or maybe they aren't, or maybe they did this to give dealers some wiggle room to get higher prices from customers who won't push back. Only Ford knows....

 

[NormaV]

Any idea on how we can see the old price? My 22MY Premium ER went from $54200 to $56200. Unfortunately I do not have the screenshot of the old pricing.

I have a PDF of the original window sticker

 

[RickMachE]

lol, no, just a guy on the internet posting speculation. But the X-plan program description talks about the invoice, not DORA.

This doesn't mean that the order could come with the "wrong" invoice, and the dealer work with ford to correct it or something. But that is predicated on Ford intending to honor the price at the time of order, which as was pointed out in this thread, they have not actually commented on. Maybe they are intending to do that and this is just a website/ordering system glitch. Or maybe they aren't, or maybe they did this to give dealers some wiggle room to get higher prices from customers who won't push back. Only Ford knows....

Ford never comments on anything. NEVER. Neither does any other auto manufacturer.

This kind of garbage is why social media, including forums, is a drag on the intelligence of mankind.

 

[Mach1E]

MSRP is set by the manufacture.

Selling price is negotiated at the dealer.

Even if the dealer won’t negotiate and tacks on the extra $2k, I am shocked people are cancelling orders over it.

It’s 2-3%. Inflation has been 5-7%.

You also don’t know what your trade in will be (mine went UP by more than a few thousand while I waited for my order).

Bottom line? Even paying 2-3% more you’re ahead.

 

[mmap]

This kind of garbage is why social media, including forums, is a drag on the intelligence of mankind.

That's downright uncivil. But I'll try to keep it friendly....

So, friend, what makes you think that we should trust Ford despite their own website saying something different to so many people? Do you work for Ford or have some kind of insider knowledge?

 

[generaltso]

It will be based on the price when the vehicle was ordered, i.e. the DORA (Dealer Order Receipt Acknowledgement).

Trust in her.

 

[mtbikemj]

After seeing this post and a similar post on Reddit, I checked my order and I see a $2,000 increase as well. I contacted my dealer and will report back.

 

[generaltso]

I contacted my dealer and will report back.

Don't bother. People are going to get answers all over the map from their dealers. It's clear that they don't know.

 

[RickMachE]

That's downright uncivil. But I'll try to keep it friendly....

So, friend, what makes you think that we should trust Ford despite their own website saying something different to so many people? Do you work for Ford or have some kind of insider knowledge?

Their own website says something different? It says we shouldn't trust them? All of a sudden, because they raised the price (maybe) on cars that aren't even made yet, we should worry that a price that the car was ordered under is not going to be honored? Because they have a history of doing that (no, they don't)?

Ford raises prices multiple times a year. That's what they do, and all other manufacturers do the same. While it may not be normal for a sticker to reflect the higher price, they don't screw their customers. Not going to happen.

My 2021 was converted to a 2022. Ford raised the price by $595. They also issued a rebate for $750. On that rebate it clearly said that it included vehicles "on order". That created an entire multi-page discussion of people that couldn't read the words "on order" and comprehend them, all they could see was a 1/3/22 date which referred to a deadline you had to order by or purchase by.

Nothing uncivil about calling unfounded speculation on anything garbage. The term "garbage" means "worthless or meaningless". If I say "it's going to snow in 37 days", that's garbage. Meaningless, as no one knows it. Feel free to replace my use of the word garbage with meaningless.

But by all means, everyone should call every dealer on every order and get them all riled up for no reason. Sounds totally reasonable.

 

[RickMachE]

Trust in her.

Best post on this forum by far. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

 

[Mach1E]

That's downright uncivil. But I'll try to keep it friendly....

So, friend, what makes you think that we should trust Ford despite their own website saying something different to so many people? Do you work for Ford or have some kind of insider knowledge?

The selling price isn’t up to Ford, it’s negotiated between you and your dealer.

I paid X plan for mine. Some paid MSRP some paid an ADM, and Ford had nothing to do with who paid what.

 

[DevSecOps]

If you placed a deposit down for an order on an MME and at the time of said purchase, it was stated that the car would be delivered 6 months later (deep into 2022), Ford would be legally bound to sell that specific order (whether it was a model '21 or'22) for the agreed upon price.

The only way that I can see that they could "get out of it", is to say the MME is no longer in production or if the delay lasted much past the delivery date indicated.

Once again, an offer was made (by Ford) and the offer was accepted (by dealership via your order) and the contract was "signed" via the deposit thus making a valid contract. The signing of a purchase agreement doesn't mean more or less at this point. A contract is a contract but this is much better than a verbal contract. Proof is everything at this point.

Unless some extenuating circumstances occurred (the plant blows up), you can enforce the contract that was agreed upon.

Now with that being said, the dealership could certainly give you your deposit back and come up with a bogus reason. If you did however find out the dealership received the MME that you ordered and then sold it for a much higher price, I believe you could sue at that point. Not sure if it would be worth investing a lawyer fee at that time but the "threat" of this possibly occurring ahead of time would most likely persuade them of NOT doing that.

Many dealerships will tell you anything with a straight face and not have any problem lying about it.

My advice is to memorialize your conversations via email and stay firm. They will sweat and eventually give in.

While I agree with what you said and I've said it myself. The issue comes down do what you ordered. You ordered a MY21. Pain and simple.

There are no MY21s being made. It doesn't matter what you agreed to if the product your ordered isn't being made.

The "contact" doesn't morph into a MY22 because that's what you think you deserve. A contract is only valid for the products listen within it. A different MY is a different product, like it or not.

Good luck with your fight. I don't think you have a leg to stand on but if you get it for less, more power to you.

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