Update on Mach-E launch progress from engineering friends in Mexico

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I truly believe that if Ford gets that many orders from reservist and walk-in buyers, they will add a shift and negotiate with battery suppliers for the additional capacity. I believe the 50K number is just that, a number.

" Ford executive Joe Hinrichs said the first full year of production would be limited to 50,000 units for global consumption—due to battery availability."

https://www.greencarreports.com/new...ale-for-its-own-battery-factory-to-make-sense

You might still be right though. Things change.
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I pretty much agree Tim.

2020 has changed pretty much everything, and I think some business models are going to take a bit of time to adapt. The demo system was thought out before the pandemic and the MME's plans were thought out before the pandemic and it's apparent popularity.

Honestly, the only downside to what you're suggesting is that I take the test drive in my own MME and exclaim, "I hate this car! It drives like a Mustang! I hate Mustangs! Ick." Or some other such thing. In that rather unlikely event, FMC doesn't get to deliver that car to another Premium, Infinite Blue, AWD, ER, dark interior customer. My dealer gets to sell it (maybe).

I'd personally be quite happy without the demo cars and just moving people up though. :)
As an FE reservation holder, I'm much happier to have them practice on a couple of thousand cars before they get to mine. To me, the demos are full production practice runs. The chance to test drive before mine arrives is a bonus.
 

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As an FE reservation holder, I'm much happier to have them practice on a couple of thousand cars before they get to mine. To me, the demos are full production practice runs. The chance to test drive before mine arrives is a bonus.
Remember that those demo cars can be sold to walk-in customers once they have the necessary # of miles on them.
 

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Remember that those demo cars can be sold to walk-in customers once they have the necessary # of miles on them.
Exactly. That's what I wrote in an earlier post. These demos are probably the only floor sale units dealers will get this year.
 

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I kinda think it will be a miracle if the customer FE's show up at the dealers in December. This schedule is extremely tight for that, and allows no slippage it seems.
 


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It's the only unit dealers get to sell out of their inventory. They sure won't be happy if Ford take that away.
I agree, the dealers would not be happy if Ford took away the one demo they ordered.
And after 4 months / 4,000 miles they can sell it as a new car with the $7,5000 Fed Tax Credit still valid.
 

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Ford has launched a special team for Mache in Europe. To help keep the Mache on pace. The demand for ev in Europe could be double what North America is by 2022. The demand is over 80% more and will release 10 more electric hybrids in Europe by the end of 2021.

Ford's goal is to have 30% of sales be EV by 2024.
Fordzilla esports car. video game car.
sales in china up 65%

Mache launch is going still as planned, Ford does not want to let anything out tell the car is 100% perfect. The demand for the mache has caught everyone off guard. China's market is asking for a way to purchase the mache by 2022. The batteries going into the underbody is long process and taking up a lot of time on the line. That is still be worked out as we speak.

Dealers should be getting demo models by the end of November. Farley said if you want one better get the order in. The goal is to find a way to make 70,000 units by the end of 2021 (counting the numbers that are produced this year). The final number of first editions to be made should be known by the end of September.

Ford is checking with dealers this week to cancel the reservations that have not turned into orders ( other than GT). Then Dearborn will be able to put all orders in sequence and start preparing to issue vin numbers mid-November.

That is about all I can say that I know.

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Exactly. That's what I wrote in an earlier post. These demos are probably the only floor sale units dealers will get this year.
But for many, it will just displace a car they would sell anyway, and sooner.

For instance, suppose they have 3 people on order waiting for MMEs that wouldn't arrive until various months in 2021. Would I rather have a demo on the lot for 4+ months (for a vehicle that new orders couldn't even deliver until 2022), or would I rather just get one of those 3 customers into their MME much sooner and complete the sale?

I'm thinking I'd prefer the latter.

Again, it changes when supply catches up to demand. Demos are more important when you have vehicles in inventory, or close to being in inventory. But if they're a year away still, the demo could be looked at as a frustration to potential new customers ("You're telling me I have to wait a year for one of these things but you won't sell me the one you have sitting right over there?!?").
 

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Exactly. That's what I wrote in an earlier post. These demos are probably the only floor sale units dealers will get this year.
I was part of the GT/PE cancellation debacle but, I never cancelled my GT when I ordered the PE. The dealer requested I maintain the reserve till December. Now he'll have 2 Mach-Es the GT and the PE since I got a FE in the Mach Drop program. He's a happy camper. Dealers are very nervous about the online retail sales program Ford is initiating. And the communications from Ford are about as miserable as they have been with us purchasers.
 

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volunteer 1,400 needed to be meet for salary early retirement. September 8th to October 23rd to sign up.
More details at:
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DETROIT — Ford said on Wednesday it is targeting the elimination of 1,400 U.S. salaried jobs by year end as part of a multiyear $11 billion restructuring.
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The layoffs will be achieved through voluntary buyouts, the U.S. automaker said in an email sent to employees. The buyouts will be offered to employees who are eligible for retirement.

"We’re in a multiyear process of making Ford more fit and effective around the world," Ford's Americas President Kumar Galhotra said in the email. "We have reprioritized certain products and services and are adjusting our staffing to better align with our new work statement."

Ford has said it was targeting a 10% operating margin in North America. Last year, before the coronavirus pandemic hit operations, Ford's North American operating margin was 6.7%.

The Dearborn, Michigan-based company previously said it expects a full-year loss because of the pandemic's impact. It expects a pre-tax profit of between $500 million and $1.5 billion in the third quarter, and a loss in the fourth quarter as it launches several new vehicles.

Last year, Ford cut 7,000 salaried jobs globally, as well as targeting 12,000 additional layoffs and plant closures in Europe. It also restructured operations in China and South America. Ford is changing chief executives on Oct. 1 to Jim Farley from Jim Hackett.

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But if they're a year away still, the demo could be looked at as a frustration to potential new customers ("You're telling me I have to wait a year for one of these things but you won't sell me the one you have sitting right over there?!?").
That's a little bit how i see it, and the demo would not be the year the customer would get, which means there will be a few update here and there. Being the first BEV, i'm expecting a lot of fixes between this model and the next year.
 

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But for many, it will just displace a car they would sell anyway, and sooner.

For instance, suppose they have 3 people on order waiting for MMEs that wouldn't arrive until various months in 2021. Would I rather have a demo on the lot for 4+ months (for a vehicle that new orders couldn't even deliver until 2022), or would I rather just get one of those 3 customers into their MME much sooner and complete the sale?

I'm thinking I'd prefer the latter.

Again, it changes when supply catches up to demand. Demos are more important when you have vehicles in inventory, or close to being in inventory. But if they're a year away still, the demo could be looked at as a frustration to potential new customers ("You're telling me I have to wait a year for one of these things but you won't sell me the one you have sitting right over there?!?").
Remember, with online sales, the buyer controls what dealer they buy through. With FCTP the dealer controls if they get a car. Bird in the hand, folks.
 

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I just have one question. Can I get a Dearborn key chain?
just print this out and tape it to whatever keychain you have handy. saves you the 12+ month "registering interest to in your hands" delay.
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Things like the Mach Drop and to a lesser extent 1400 have pissed me off. I've gotten next to no information directly from Ford, and if not for those with information on here I'd know as much as the average salesman. Ford marketing continues to hype and oversell a product that has far exceeded the demand. For a car who can't find enough supply of parts to fill it's orders, I'd rather not see anything about a race car or a secret stash of cars being offered to a select few by a celebrity on social media.

With Ford, it seems like the loudest voices have the least information.
I think you forgot the marketing blitz that you can write a song using the sounds of an electric vehicle. For a solid month it was all about a 1400 HP vehicle that no one can purchase and resembles nothing you can. Then they switched to the music you can make from the sounds of their EV. You can draw from the song, however, if you listen to the lyrics closely it says Rocky29670 will receive their vehicle in March. ;)


If it wasn’t for some tidbits on this forum about the car I would have dropped my order for a Tesla. It’s ridiculous the lack of communication from Ford, regardless of a pandemic or not.
Now that is funny; you actually think Tesla would be different, better? Best of luck on that with building quality, maintenance, parts etc. I would be looking to Hyundai, Nissan, VW etc. A company with corporate ethics.

Eventually they'll need them, but for now if it's between getting demos in place in Nov/Dec vs selling those units to customers so they don't have to wait another year for delivery, then it's better to satisfy 2000 more customers than make them wait.
What stops the dealer from doing exactly that with their demos? A Ford rule?
 

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What stops the dealer from doing exactly that with their demos? A Ford rule?
Yes: minimum service 4 months/4,000 miles, maximum 6 months/6,000 miles.
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