Is there any benefit to "breaking in" the battery by putting off fast charging until the battery is a bit older?

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I have a family friend trying to squeeze me in ASAP to get my 14-50 plug installed. I thought I would be good relying on my 120v until then but I found out the outlet I was going to use is messed up and I can't find another 120v outlet close enough that wouldn't involve an extension cord. I've been relying in the meantime on using a local public level 2 charger and just not going on as many joy rides as I want. And while that hasn't been a terrible plan, I'm thinking of going for my first DC fast charge Sunday so I start the work week with a full battery.

I've been putting it off because I know too much fast charging degrades the battery quicker.

But in addition to not doing fast charging *often*, is there any benefit to also not doing it so early in the battery's life? I haven't read anything suggesting so but I get a gut feeling that I should let it "break in" before doing it.

If it's fine, my one fast charge Sunday should hold me off until my 240v line is installed.
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I don't believe there is any benefit in waiting to DCFC. Do what you need to do until you can get your L2 installed at home.
 

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I have a family friend trying to squeeze me in ASAP to get my 14-50 plug installed. I thought I would be good relying on my 120v until then but I found out the outlet I was going to use is messed up and I can't find another 120v outlet close enough that wouldn't involve an extension cord. I've been relying in the meantime on using a local public level 2 charger and just not going on as many joy rides as I want. And while that hasn't been a terrible plan, I'm thinking of going for my first DC fast charge Sunday so I start the work week with a full battery.

I've been putting it off because I know too much fast charging degrades the battery quicker.

But in addition to not doing fast charging *often*, is there any benefit to also not doing it so early in the battery's life? I haven't read anything suggesting so but I get a gut feeling that I should let it "break in" before doing it.

If it's fine, my one fast charge Sunday should hold me off until my 240v line is installed.
If it weren’t recommended it would have been in the manual like only charging to less than 100% for most of the time. You’ll be fine.
 
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If it weren’t recommended it would have been in the manual like only charging to less than 100% for most of the time. You’ll be fine.
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The primary reason for limiting Level 3 charging is due to HVB heating. Not really going to happen this time of year in our region.

I have yet to see greater that 50 kWh charge rate in several DC charge sessions, even when temps were above average. And unless your car was updated it drops down to Level 2 rates at 80% also.

Go for it, not even worth a second thought.
 


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The primary reason for limiting Level 3 charging is due to HVB heating. Not really going to happen this time of year in our region.

I have yet to see greater that 50 kWh charge rate in several DC charge sessions, even when temps were above average. And unless your car was updated it drops down to Level 2 rates at 80% also.

Go for it, not even worth a second thought.
Yea I was thinking the same thing re: heat of the battery and the weather right now. I'm sure it still heats the battery to some degree, but it's still gotta be the best time of the year to be doing it.

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We have had our car for over 7 months now and did some fast charging early on so I wouldn’t worry about it! At home I mostly charge it up to 90% but I don’t worry about charging it up to 100% either every now and then.
 

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They likely DCFC at the plant as part of the end-of-line tests (and likely to get the car up to a relatively high start of charge quickly).
 

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I have a family friend trying to squeeze me in ASAP to get my 14-50 plug installed. I thought I would be good relying on my 120v until then but I found out the outlet I was going to use is messed up and I can't find another 120v outlet close enough that wouldn't involve an extension cord. I've been relying in the meantime on using a local public level 2 charger and just not going on as many joy rides as I want. And while that hasn't been a terrible plan, I'm thinking of going for my first DC fast charge Sunday so I start the work week with a full battery.

I've been putting it off because I know too much fast charging degrades the battery quicker.

But in addition to not doing fast charging *often*, is there any benefit to also not doing it so early in the battery's life? I haven't read anything suggesting so but I get a gut feeling that I should let it "break in" before doing it.

If it's fine, my one fast charge Sunday should hold me off until my 240v line is installed.
Maybe a better question is:

Do you plan on keeping it past 8 yrs/100k miles?

If not, why worry?

The car manufacturers seem to have made BEV owners paranoid to use their vehicles.
 

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I have a family friend trying to squeeze me in ASAP to get my 14-50 plug installed. I thought I would be good relying on my 120v until then but I found out the outlet I was going to use is messed up and I can't find another 120v outlet close enough that wouldn't involve an extension cord. I've been relying in the meantime on using a local public level 2 charger and just not going on as many joy rides as I want. And while that hasn't been a terrible plan, I'm thinking of going for my first DC fast charge Sunday so I start the work week with a full battery.

I've been putting it off because I know too much fast charging degrades the battery quicker.

But in addition to not doing fast charging *often*, is there any benefit to also not doing it so early in the battery's life? I haven't read anything suggesting so but I get a gut feeling that I should let it "break in" before doing it.

If it's fine, my one fast charge Sunday should hold me off until my 240v line is installed.
At least with fast charging you won’t charge past 80%. I think charging closer to 100% will degrade the battery. We have 240v service but only charged to 80% for the 1st month and now don’t charge past 90% since more is not needed.
 

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Nope, there is no breaking in period for the battery.

Putting in an outlet at home, however, has plenty of other benefits. For me the cost difference ($0.08 per kWh versus $0.31) is the biggest. Plus, charging while I sleep is nicer than waiting at a charging station).
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