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Hahahahaha what a waste of the lawyers time and ford lawyers time. Nothing will come of this.
I have Floored my gtpe for 10000 miles everywhere. I got the recall at 9000 and have purpose wasted my time going up 50 and 80 flooring it past 85 and nothing is happening. I have DCFC about 30 times total and 4 times since the recall nothing. If it does happen it happens. Whatever. Can’t wait for my trip to Sacramento to Seattle in 2 weeks. If she dies she dies. The lawsuit is their 15 mins ?‍♂
Billable hours are NEVER a “waste” of a lawyer’s time. It’s those unbilled hours.
 
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Indeed lots of Johnson swaggering on both sides of the aisle here. Some adamant that getting bricked is not unusual and others mortified that PAAK Works better as phone as a phone

A lot of us seem to be enthusiasts with multiple cars. Many quite delightful and fancy and will put up with a lot more but you have to put yourself in the position of the family that has to count on this vehicle for their very livelihood to get around to get to work to take care of their kids to be safe

It’s the old story you know you have to walk a mile in another man shoes
That’s always wise to do because then if there’s a conflict you’re a mile away and you have his freaking shoes

Jes sayin. Let’s remember some people are really impacted by this
 

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this lawsuit will not change anything about how Ford is dealing with this problem.
Nor how I, or most others here will either. (not saying that some of us won't still whine and complain just because it's a forum) ?
 


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This was why I wasn't ready to sign on to a protest with the NHTSA. The externalities are lawsuits for which we do not yet know the merits.
These are the fine folks that need to wait for cars until all bugs are worked out- dont get a job 1/2 of any new car line unless you have some understanding you are a possible test subject
 

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Reading this thread was... something else. There are so many people on here being pedantic and nit-picking each others' words I quite literally don't remember what the OP was about. What a journey.
I couldn’t agree more!
 

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I read the filing and was not impressed. It has only been a short while since the recall came out but to me the recall has, so far, eliminated a bricked vehicle condition and alleviated the safety concerns (although others disagree.) I believe the part should be replaced as a recall. Unfortunately it appears Ford is taking a warranty replacement approach. I will not change my driving and am not worried about my car failing.
I assume the software "fix" is to dumb down the performance to reduce overheating contacts. A proper fix would be to replace the contact with a higher grade/quality contact. Ford most likely knew this would be a problem, that's why they had a 5 second rule in the first place, now it will probably be a 2 second rule, less horsepower, less/slower DC kW charging, etc.
 
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I assume the software "fix" is to dumb down the performance to reduce overheating contacts. A proper fix would be to replace the contact with a higher grade/quality contact. Ford most likely knew this would be a problem, that's why they had a 5 second rule in the first place, now it will probably be a 2 second rule, less horsepower, less/slower DC kW charging, etc.
At this time all the reports are that the software does not affect performance unless it detects the possibility of a failure. At that point it does reduce performance and tells you to go to the dealer for service. Car remains drivable. The dealer then replaces the HVBJB under warranty, There does seem to be some confusion as the dealer can clear the error code and it appears they have sent some owners home after clearing the code. I believe Ford will get that straightened out quickly - get the potential failure code and you get the part changed under warranty.
 

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Question: Do we know Ford has manufactured a new part? If it comes to it; they aren't replacing the original part with the same part are they?
They have, in fact, not only replaced the part but replaced the replacement already. There is a part ending in -B (the initial replacement) that was almost immediately replaced in inventory with a part ending in -C. If you get the warning and are told to service your vehicle, you SHOULD be getting a replacement part that is re-engineered. We don't have a lot of people on the forums that have gone all the way through that process yet to confirm what part they got. But I think I saw at least one on here.

This whole thing is still freshly developing.
 

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I assume the software "fix" is to dumb down the performance to reduce overheating contacts. A proper fix would be to replace the contact with a higher grade/quality contact. Ford most likely knew this would be a problem, that's why they had a 5 second rule in the first place, now it will probably be a 2 second rule, less horsepower, less/slower DC kW charging, etc.
I believe your assumption is incorrect. The software fix is to detect a contactor in danger of failing, which will then be replaced with a new HEEBYJEEBY thingy. It's reasonable to think Ford knew there could be an issue (pushing a lot of amps through those things) and needed the field test to know for sure.

The lawsuit strikes me as grandstanding and pretty silly.
 

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Lawyer money grab. I will feel vindicated by the 5 cents I will receive in compensation
 

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Lawyer money grab. I will feel vindicated by the 5 cents I will receive in compensation
If my math is correct (and it rarely is), it'd be $71. Not even enough to fill up an ICE you don't have.
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