New Lawsuit targets Ford and Mach-E Safety over high voltage battery main contactor issue

[JCHLi]

Ummm, why didn’t you purchase the Tesla In the first place?

Just curious.

Some people just don't want to be happy...

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[ridgebackpilot]

They are replacing all defective contactors. You do understand the difference between potentially defective and defective, right?
It is also interesting that you chose to claim "Anyone of us who owns an affected car surely wants the same thing". When clearly based on this thread alone you can see that that is not the case.

Do you speak for everyone? Surely everyone with a working vehicle doesn't want to have their car in the shop for a week to replace a part that is working. I guess it is fun to speak for everyone.

Gosh, I guess you guys are happy with known potentially defective parts in your cars? Parts subject to a recall that could strand you anytime, anywhere?? Hard to believe, but it's your car.

I suspect I do speak for most of us who would rather have the problem corrected before that happens than have to deal with it after the car bricks on the road. It's called preventative maintenance.

But don't worry: Even if Ford recalls all MMEs built before 5/25/22, no one is going to force you guys to take your cars in to have the potentially defective HVBJB replaced. Good luck!

 

[JCHLi]

Gosh, I guess you guys are happy with known potentially defective parts in your cars? Parts subject to a recall that could strand you anytime, anywhere?? Hard to believe, but it's your car.

I suspect I do speak for most of us who would rather have the problem corrected before that happens than have to deal with it after the car bricks on the road. It's called preventative maintenance.

But don't worry: Even if Ford recalls all MMEs built before 5/25/22, no one is going to force you guys to take your cars in to have the potentially defective HVBJB replaced. Good luck!

Pretty simple, there are a large number of items in any car that could fail and strand me. I don't like getting a flat tire or broken windshield, or having an engine freeze up, or a radiator blow up. But that's why I have insurance and roadside assistance. If there is a failure, I'll get a tow and I'll get it fixed under warranty. If it's outside of warranty, well then I'll have driven the car for 100,000 miles and hopefully it won't cost to much to replace in 5-10 years.

Until then I'll actually enjoy the car I wanted.

 

[Jimrpa]

“This situation is not like a broken tailight or rubber falling off a doorjamb, Desai said. "Those are things that happen all the time with recalls. We're talking about 50,000 cars that can just turn off unexpectedly. At that point, it's time for a lawsuit."”

My father-in-law and other family members were decades long workers for Ford in Dearborn. I still get my cars on A plan

Despite the fact I am a huge Ford fan and loved my first 2 ponies and have 2 more on order I am fully in support of this lawsuit to highlight this unique situation. As the quote above indicates it’s unlike other minor recalls. It is unacceptable to have a $50,000 plus new car strand you without an easy way to get it towed. It’s been happening for too long To too many people and the fix was an absolute joke that made it worse. It’s that ridiculous software patch that caused this lawsuit and I think it’s needed

Doesn’t matter if it hasn’t happened to you it doesn’t matter if you think it’s not going to happen to you it’s happening to enough and the lawsuit is probably going to help correct it quicker in my opinion. Ford has handled the situation very badly

Jes sayin. Now let’s discuss why dealers are still trying to charge $15,000 ADM more for a thrice recalled vehicle they’re technically not allowed to deliver right now because it’s broken so bad it will strand you on the road …..that’s when life is totally upside down and we live in the bizarro world. Lawsuit needed.

How many people has this happened to? What are the conditions for this failure? What is the failure rate?
Nothing is 100% perfect. If the failure rate is significant, or if the part has a demonstrable design flaw, then a replacement may make sense. On the other hand, there are some design flaws that don’t impact normal operations, so replacing the part wouldn’t make sense.
I still want to know where all the outrage is for the PROVEN lack of a remote frunk release after 18 months! where are all THOSE lawsuits?

 

[Jimrpa]

The complaint asks for punitive damages. Fixing 50,000 Mach-e's isn't going to make this person go away.

By the way, one of the plaintiffs is a frequent poster on this forum.

Who’s that?

 

[BMT1071]

Who’s that?

Benjamin

 

[ripperAZ]

How many people has this happened to? What are the conditions for this failure? What is the failure rate?
Nothing is 100% perfect. If the failure rate is significant, or if the part has a demonstrable design flaw, then a replacement may make sense. On the other hand, there are some design flaws that don’t impact normal operations, so replacing the part wouldn’t make sense.
I still want to know where all the outrage is for the PROVEN lack of a remote frunk release after 18 months! where are all THOSE lawsuits?

LOL
Imagine 50k recalled because they couldn’t get to their chilled frunk shrimp

Its popping up too Fast FMC blew it when they installed a fisher price play school romper room patch

it took Power away from my big wheel to prevent it from melting or whatever they freaking did

Guy whose pony died in the car wash scares me simply because what the hell is he taking his pony into a car wash for? I could hear his paint screaming from here !!!!!!

jes sayin. Kind of a bad month for the electric stallion. neigh…

 

[devmach-e]

Gosh, I guess you guys are happy with known potentially defective parts in your cars? Parts subject to a recall that could strand you anytime, anywhere?? Hard to believe, but it's your car.

I suspect I do speak for most of us who would rather have the problem corrected before that happens than have to deal with it after the car bricks on the road. It's called preventative maintenance.

But don't worry: Even if Ford recalls all MMEs built before 5/25/22, no one is going to force you guys to take your cars in to have the potentially defective HVBJB replaced. Good luck!

In some states, if there is an outstanding emissions related recall that needs to be done, they won't let you renew your car's registration. Ask me how I know this. This isn't to say that the part in question *is* part of the emissions control system, but given the fact that the battery and the electric motors and other associated hardware do fall under the federal emissions warranty of 8-years/100K miles, it is very likely that if there is an actual recall that mandates replacement of the contactors, a lot of us will have to do it if we want to keep driving our MMEs.

 

[mccdeuce]

Gosh, I guess you guys are happy with known potentially defective parts in your cars? Parts subject to a recall that could strand you anytime, anywhere?? Hard to believe, but it's your car.

I suspect I do speak for most of us who would rather have the problem corrected before that happens than have to deal with it after the car bricks on the road. It's called preventative maintenance.

But don't worry: Even if Ford recalls all MMEs built before 5/25/22, no one is going to force you guys to take your cars in to have the potentially defective HVBJB replaced. Good luck!

You cant live life in fear of the "what if" - it could happen to your Premium ER and it could not. Just like your Tesla 3 could have massive rust issues. Are you living in fear of that too?

You want something that will have no issues whatsoever? Get a Chevy Suburban. Chevy has been building them since 1935.
Recall date 2021-09-23 Recall no. 21V739000
General Motors, LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2021 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Chevrolet Suburban, Tahoe, GMC Yukon, and Yukon XL vehicles. The fuel pump power control module may cause the fuel pump to fail or operate intermittently, which can interrupt fuel flow to the engine, and cause an unexpected engine stall.

We are on year 2 of a brand new platform for FORD. If someone can show that Ford is not actively trying to fix a mistake/engineering flaw then there is an issue. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[moparguy]

I'm not buying from you. I am just saying you are better off selling the car and being done with it if this makes you that unhappy. I never understood why people spend time being miserable with something they don't like unless there is an obligation?

You can always try to sell the Mach E back to Ford under lemon law.

You understand that someone has to painfully suffer for tens of days before their car is eligible, thank God, I am in a point in my life where the last thing that will make me miserable is a car!
There is a difference between someone miserable and someone who was sold a faulty product, unlike a big chunk of people, I am not a brand, otherwise, I'd be on the Dodge forum trying my best to justify some of their BS, until Ford actually replaces all the faulty parts on my car for free, I'll keep posting and expose their BS.

My only option other option is Tesla and right now it went through the roof, I'd rather bitch about Ford hoping that they fix their cheap hardware asap over selling my car, lose money, and spend $8k extra for the Tesla from the time I ordered my car.

 

[moparguy]

Ummm, why didn’t you purchase the Tesla In the first place?

Just curious.

Because I thought the Mach E was nicer and coming out from the new Bronco, I had faith that Ford finally woke up from their long coma and started making decent cars, didn't know that those grey bars of shame will come after me like they are today.

 

[MachEnthusiast]

Reading this thread was... something else. There are so many people on here being pedantic and nit-picking each others' words I quite literally don't remember what the OP was about. What a journey.

 

[Flydivesurf]

Hahahahaha what a waste of the lawyers time and ford lawyers time. Nothing will come of this.
I have Floored my gtpe for 10000 miles everywhere. I got the recall at 9000 and have purpose wasted my time going up 50 and 80 flooring it past 85 and nothing is happening. I have DCFC about 30 times total and 4 times since the recall nothing. If it does happen it happens. Whatever. Can’t wait for my trip to Sacramento to Seattle in 2 weeks. If she dies she dies. The lawsuit is their 15 mins

What you’re describing is abusing your car. The fact that it can be driven like that does not mean it should. Why would you want to do that?

 

[67 Stang Convertible]

Question: Do we know Ford has manufactured a new part? If it comes to it; they aren't replacing the original part with the same part are they?

 

[VaderMachE]

Reading this thread was... something else. There are so many people on here being pedantic and nit-picking each others' words I quite literally don't remember what the OP was about. What a journey.

I know, right?! Like, what just happened?

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