New Lawsuit targets Ford and Mach-E Safety over high voltage battery main contactor issue

[dml105]

The easiest way for Ford to get the lawsuit dismissed is to amend the recall and order replacement of all defective contactors (HVBJB).

The complaint asks for punitive damages. Fixing 50,000 Mach-e's isn't going to make this person go away.

By the way, one of the plaintiffs is a frequent poster on this forum.

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[bluestarct]

Pay me $74k for my Mach E and sell me a brand new Tesla Model 3 Performance for $57K+tax and registration ( was the cost of the car when I ordered my Mach E ) and I will be very happy to walk away.

I'm not buying from you. I am just saying you are better off selling the car and being done with it if this makes you that unhappy. I never understood why people spend time being miserable with something they don't like unless there is an obligation?

You can always try to sell the Mach E back to Ford under lemon law.

 

[Southern92]

There are no cars without a potentially serious defect. There are only cars that you are not aware of what the potentially serious defect is.

As I have not done a deep dive on every car to ever have existed, I could not say. But failure to provide proof is NOT proof of said failure.

 

[ARK]

I'm not buying from you. I am just saying you are better off selling the car and being done with it if this makes you that unhappy. I never understood why people spend time being miserable with something they don't like unless there is an obligation?

You can always try to sell the Mach E back to Ford under lemon law.

Exactly, it is like a sunk cost. Good decision, OK decision, bad decision, that money was spent and it is what it is. The price of both cars have now changed and will continue to change.

Sticking with it while still unhappy will not bring that money back nor will it lower the Tesla's cost. Instead, the likely outcome of waiting is depreciation of a used car that an owner keeps driving, and a rising cost of a new car bought in a future model year.

 

[1969Camaro]

Not true. 99.5% of US cars have not yet failed. Over time, we have no idea how many will have or might.

268/50,000 = 0.00536 x 100 = 0.536 failure rate or 99.5% don't

 

[devmach-e]

268/50,000 = 0.00536 x 100 = 0.536 failure rate or 99.5% don't

That’s the current failure rate. It doesn’t mean there couldn’t be more that are waiting to happen.

 

[RickMachE]

268/50,000 = 0.00536 x 100 = 0.536 failure rate or 99.5% don't

YET. Do you know the future? Why do you think they're installing the software?

 

[ARK]

That’s the current failure rate. It doesn’t mean there couldn’t be more that are waiting to happen.

YET. Do you know the future? Why do you think they're installing the software?

I think that's a reasonable bet. I can't think of anyone saying they bought their Mach-E, drove it home, and it never turned back on (or within say the first week).

There does seem to be something progressive about the issue building up over time.

I'd also bet a lot of people are really into flooring it over and over when they first get their Mach-E, especially the GT and GTPE buyers. That would seemingly put people at highest risk of a HVBJB failure but again, we don't hear about this happening immediately with new vehicles.

 

[buzznwood]

It is alright the quality czar will be fixing it all ?

https://fordauthority.com/2022/07/ford-quality-czar-says-issues-should-subside-in-2023/

Heard it all before with Ford from quality is job#1 to numerous other slogans down the years, it is rinse and repeat when it comes to Ford and cocking up new model releases. This will just be another in a long line of class action lawsuit to add to the others

 

[1969Camaro]

That’s the current failure rate. It doesn’t mean there couldn’t be more that are waiting to happen.

Or less. The point is- There is a statistically significant population and time (2 years) that the number should not change dramatically UNLESS there is a early in life wear out mechanism at work.

 

[BMT1071]

Not sure how much experience any of you have with class action litigation. But the purpose of these lawsuits it to compel the defendant corporation (in this case, Ford) to make the affected class whole. To anyone but the attorneys, it's never about the money. In our case it's about forcing Ford to replace the defective HVBJB (contactors) with new hardware rather than simply apply a software "patch" that reduces the performance of our cars.

Anyone of us who owns an affected car surely wants the same thing. Maybe Ford will replace the defective hardware under warranty anyway, we just don't know. With the class action suit pending, perhaps Ford will be more likely to apply the proper fix to our cars to avoid an adverse outcome of the litigation.

The easiest way for Ford to get the lawsuit dismissed is to amend the recall and order replacement of all defective contactors (HVBJB). I suspect that's exactly what will happen. And we'll all be happy if it does.

They are replacing all defective contactors. You do understand the difference between potentially defective and defective, right?
It is also interesting that you chose to claim "Anyone of us who owns an affected car surely wants the same thing". When clearly based on this thread alone you can see that that is not the case.

 

[JCHLi]

Well... Someone is going to make some money...

Not sure what they think they are going to accomplish with that.

I imagine they will accomplish giving money to their lawyer.

 

[JCHLi]

The first line of the attorney's interests on his Twitter page say early Tesla investor. I wonder if he is still heavily invested in Tesla? Not sure if he stands to personally gain financially from this legal action, by owning significant (?) value in Tesla stock (?) rises to a conflict of interest in this sort of case; it possibly could. Or, it could be the issue was considered and is not a problem.

https://twitter.com/desai_law?lang=en

Imagine if Ford's legal team has access to the internet...

 

[JCHLi]

Not sure how much experience any of you have with class action litigation. But the purpose of these lawsuits it to compel the defendant corporation (in this case, Ford) to make the affected class whole. To anyone but the attorneys, it's never about the money. In our case it's about forcing Ford to replace the defective HVBJB (contactors) with new hardware rather than simply apply a software "patch" that reduces the performance of our cars.

Anyone of us who owns an affected car surely wants the same thing. Maybe Ford will replace the defective hardware under warranty anyway, we just don't know. With the class action suit pending, perhaps Ford will be more likely to apply the proper fix to our cars to avoid an adverse outcome of the litigation.

The easiest way for Ford to get the lawsuit dismissed is to amend the recall and order replacement of all defective contactors (HVBJB). I suspect that's exactly what will happen. And we'll all be happy if it does.

Do you speak for everyone? Surely everyone with a working vehicle doesn't want to have their car in the shop for a week to replace a part that is working. I guess it is fun to speak for everyone.

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