'22 Mach E GT — Range Deficient

[mkhuffman]

Thanks. The 2021 was a Premium 4X and it drove perfectly from the start. Range was always within 260-270 at 100%. Perhaps it's the GT that is the difference but it is still rated the same as the non-GT for AWD range. Thank god for the safety package on the 2021 too. It definitely saved me.

More investigation is needed to help you figure this out. Please help us help you. What is your average efficiency? What was your efficiency on that trip to the Pheonix, and what was your state of charge when you left Yuma?

You can also get an OBDII scanner and the CarScanner app, which will allow you to check the battery capacity to empty at 100% charge.

There are things you can do to figure out what is happening. And then when you go to the dealer you have some proof other than what you have provided us so far.

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[Benny’66]

This thread is a dead end. It has been asked more than a dozen times for the efficiency numbers and OP still hasn’t given, despite obviously reading each posted request. A person doesn’t have to leave their chair, it’s logged in FP for every trip taken. Thursday, August 4th I can tell you my GTPE went 15.7 miles, used 5.2 kWh with an efficiency of 3.0 miles/kWh. SIMPLE. So even more simple math would tell me 88 X 3.0 = 264 miles of range. Now, two days earlier, my efficiency over 27.3 miles was only 2.4 so …… (yup, here it comes) …. my range would have only been …. (wait for it) ….. 211 miles. BANG! There it is! Battery broke? Nope. Windy and heavy foot.

I’d have more recent data but the car has been at the dealer since the 5th for a HVBJB replacement and the Lightening they loaned me only got 2.0 efficiency on my 27.3 mikes commute to work this morning. How do I know that? Because it is on the 20” tablet that stares you in the face every minute you are driving.

Come to think of it, maybe my 3.0 efficiency had something to do with turtle mode the car was in when I drove it to the dealer, which doesn’t let you have any fun. So the OP just needs to get his GT into turtle mode and all will be solved.

 

[Mach1E]

More investigation is needed to help you figure this out. Please help us help you. What is your average efficiency? What was your efficiency on that trip to the Pheonix, and what was your state of charge when you left Yuma?

You can also get an OBDII scanner and the CarScanner app, which will allow you to check the battery capacity to empty at 100% charge.

There are things you can do to figure out what is happening. And then when you go to the dealer you have some proof other than what you have provided us so far.

 

[generaltso]

What battery is in your GT? Sounds like an SR which makes your 210 GOM accurate based on a fast driving pattern.

There's no such thing as a GT with a SR battery.

I probably drive through Dateland round-trip 30 times a year. I have one bit of advice. Don’t count on it ever. It’s the end of the trail for deliveries and service. When things broken and go wrong, they get help but they get it last. That’s after the teenager remembers to call in two days after he’s notified it’s broken.

it might be worse in Quartzsite or Baker.
It’s it’s still the twilight zone in the California desert
Freaking death Valley flooded last week and washed away 30 fantastic cars from rich people staying at the resort there
Never trust the distant creepy desert
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How am I supposed to know this is something you are just saying without the Jes Sayin'? Are you feeling okay?

 

[Thesmoothdome]

Is anyone else having issues with deficient range at 100% charge?

I have a 2022 Mach E GT (stnd, not performance) and at 100% charge I have a max range of 215 (which is the best I've ever gotten; 200-205 is more typical). I live in San Diego so weather is not a factor. The local Ford dealer tried to tell me that was realistic because of driving behavior, but I know that's BS because this is my 2nd Mach E — I had a 2021 Premium 4X for 7mo. before a teenager in a truck hit me and ran me off the road and head-on into a concrete barrier (I walked away unhurt because of the excellent safety tech). The 2021 always showed btwn 260-270 max range at full charge.

I drove the car from San Diego to Phoenix last week and because the EA station in Dateland AZ was unexpectedly down (I checked the app the day before) I ran out of charge and had to be towed. If the car was giving me the full expected range it would have made it from Yuma to Phoenix.

I am beginning to wonder if it's a bad battery since the local dealer has already looked at it once since I bought it (last April). California has strict lemon laws, so if it is a bad battery I might have to go that route (which I don't want to do). I am in love with this car but for $65k it should be getting the full range promised.

Thoughts?

Thank you.

Daniel

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San Diego here as well. For the past year, I've averaged 3.7mi/kWh during the warmer months and 3.3 during the cooler ones. I did two road trips this summer with the 2nd one being to Tucson and back. The 8 and 10 are open, empty and windy highways. At 75mph, I averaged 2.4 and 2.6 mi/kWh for each direction. Thanks to that, my average for the time I've owned the car has dropped to 2.8mi/kWh. The GOM shows 225 mi or so at 90%. It's not a concern since most of my year is spent around town where I know I'll get 3.5 mi/kWh through the year. I don't know how far the back the GOM goes to create its estimate, but eventually it'll come back up. Don't sweat it.

 

[AZBill]

I’ve never had an issue charging in Dateland before last week. Again, I checked the EA site the day before and there was no mention of a closure. And why EVERY stall? EA should do better.

That aside, I still should have been able to go from Yuma to Phoenix on one charge. And BlueCruise did all the driving at or below the posted speed limit so it’s more than a bad GOM; the battery doesn’t hold enough charge.

Dateland has been questionable for a while now, you really need to look on Plugshare, not just the EA app. I did a trip a few weeks ago Phoenix to Carlsbad and avoided using that charging site. I did stop there for a bathroom break on the way and a Rivian was using charger #3 and # 4 display was on. But #1 and #2 were off line. It had been reported on Plugshare for over a month that only #3 was working, just before it went totally offline. I drove 230 miles, all the way to El Centro and charged there. On the way back I used I-10 and made two short stops, one in Indio and another in Quartzsite. Both those sites were full, all four chargers in use. If I had returned via I-8, I would have stopped in Yuma and charged to 70%.

I have a CR1 and a known good battery, Yuma to Buckeye should be easy for any ER battery, even at 80%.

 

[Ming]

OP has a valid concern. I don't know why people keep telling him/her live with it. based on his past MME range, he should expect more than 215.

should have the battery health checked out.

 

[mkhuffman]

OP has a valid concern. I don't know why people keep telling him/her live with it. based on his past MME range, he should expect more than 215.

should have the battery health checked out.

I don't think he has provided enough data to determine if there is a problem or not, or even what the problem is. You are jumping to conclusions without sufficient information.

 

[voxel]

My Premium AWD ER efficiency was 3.0-3.3 mi/kWh (mostly 3.1 mi/kWh)
My GTPE efficiency is 2.5-2.6 mi/kWh.

Same type of driving. Same roads (mostly interstate within city but going 70-75mph). Hot Florida.

For local road driving I use my MINI electric.

 

[jjhenry]

FWIW, last December I drove round-trip from San Diego to Tucson for the holidays, and averaged 1.9 mi/kWh doing 75 with cruise control in a base GT. I don't recall the average outside temp (50s maybe?), so that was probably a factor. I don't think OP's range is all that bad for highway travel. I'm getting about 2.5 mi/kWh here in the summer doing 75-80 on my commute, which lines up with OP.

 

[Cloris_GT]

FWIW, last December I drove round-trip from San Diego to Tucson for the holidays, and averaged 1.9 mi/kWh doing 75 with cruise control in a base GT. I don't recall the average outside temp (50s maybe?), so that was probably a factor. I don't think OP's range is all that bad for highway travel. I'm getting about 2.5 mi/kWh here in the summer doing 75-80 on my commute, which lines up with OP.

Thanks. My concern comes from comparing the performance of my original '21 Prem 4X to the '22 GT. I made the same trip from SD to PHX in both vehicles and the '21 never had any issues with range — always stayed reliably w/in the 260-270 range. It must be some difference in the way the two are programmed if it's not a hardware issue (which was my main concern).

Thank you to everyone who offered suggestions and insight. It's appreciated.

 

[Kevin P]

Thanks. My concern comes from comparing the performance of my original '21 Prem 4X to the '22 GT. I made the same trip from SD to PHX in both vehicles and the '21 never had any issues with range — always stayed reliably w/in the 260-270 range. It must be some difference in the way the two are programmed if it's not a hardware issue (which was my main concern).

Thank you to everyone who offered suggestions and insight. It's appreciated.

And again, you refuse to answer the single question that would help determine if you have a legitimate issue or not.

 

[voxel]

Thanks. My concern comes from comparing the performance of my original '21 Prem 4X to the '22 GT. I made the same trip from SD to PHX in both vehicles and the '21 never had any issues with range — always stayed reliably w/in the 260-270 range. It must be some difference in the way the two are programmed if it's not a hardware issue (which was my main concern).

Thank you to everyone who offered suggestions and insight. It's appreciated.

Yeah I'd say the 4X has a solid 270-280 mile 70mph range whereas the GTPE is close to 220-230 miles. I don't think you have a bad battery. Bjorn's GTPE tests confirm what I'm seeing efficiency-wise... the GTPE motors + inverters suck up electrons.

I'm tempted to "downgrade" my GTPE to a 4X in late Sept when my third (lol) MME arrives. I was originally planning to let the order go so the dealer could get his $5K markup on the next buyer but the GTPE isn't worth the $13K price difference.

 

[jjhenry]

Thanks. My concern comes from comparing the performance of my original '21 Prem 4X to the '22 GT. I made the same trip from SD to PHX in both vehicles and the '21 never had any issues with range...

Remember the GT has the more powerful front motor, which is going to use more juice. Also, the larger tires don't help efficiency. The GT is never going to be as efficient as a 4X Premium with comparable driving styles.

 

[Cloris_GT]

And again, you refuse to answer the single question that would help determine if you have a legitimate issue or not.

OK. Thanks, Kevin. I have the answers I needed.

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