'22 Mach E GT — Range Deficient

[highland58]

If I had the stock tires, it probably would get past 300 miles in the GOM. This is with the cross climate tires, mostly rural roads.

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[Cloris_GT]

Dateland has been questionable for a while now, you really need to look on Plugshare, not just the EA app. I did a trip a few weeks ago Phoenix to Carlsbad and avoided using that charging site. I did stop there for a bathroom break on the way and a Rivian was using charger #3 and # 4 display was on. But #1 and #2 were off line. It had been reported on Plugshare for over a month that only #3 was working, just before it went totally offline. I drove 230 miles, all the way to El Centro and charged there. On the way back I used I-10 and made two short stops, one in Indio and another in Quartzsite. Both those sites were full, all four chargers in use. If I had returned via I-8, I would have stopped in Yuma and charged to 70%.

I have a CR1 and a known good battery, Yuma to Buckeye should be easy for any ER battery, even at 80%.

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[Garbone]

Thanks. My concern comes from comparing the performance of my original '21 Prem 4X to the '22 GT. I made the same trip from SD to PHX in both vehicles and the '21 never had any issues with range — always stayed reliably w/in the 260-270 range. It must be some difference in the way the two are programmed if it's not a hardware issue (which was my main concern).

Thank you to everyone who offered suggestions and insight. It's appreciated.

Well the Prem has a smaller front drive unit. Think this is on par with going from a SR RWD to a SR AWD, you are just going to loose range. Also different rubber on the GT, so another range hit there.

This is what has me sitting on the fence about rims and tires for my rig. Range vs vanity.

 

[DaMeatMan]

Is anyone else having issues with deficient range at 100% charge?

I have a 2022 Mach E GT (stnd, not performance) and at 100% charge I have a max range of 215 (which is the best I've ever gotten; 200-205 is more typical). I live in San Diego so weather is not a factor. The local Ford dealer tried to tell me that was realistic because of driving behavior, but I know that's BS because this is my 2nd Mach E — I had a 2021 Premium 4X for 7mo. before a teenager in a truck hit me and ran me off the road and head-on into a concrete barrier (I walked away unhurt because of the excellent safety tech). The 2021 always showed btwn 260-270 max range at full charge.

I drove the car from San Diego to Phoenix last week and because the EA station in Dateland AZ was unexpectedly down (I checked the app the day before) I ran out of charge and had to be towed. If the car was giving me the full expected range it would have made it from Yuma to Phoenix.

I am beginning to wonder if it's a bad battery since the local dealer has already looked at it once since I bought it (last April). California has strict lemon laws, so if it is a bad battery I might have to go that route (which I don't want to do). I am in love with this car but for $65k it should be getting the full range promised.

Thoughts?

Thank you.

Daniel

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I find it absolutely bonkers that I just read through 4 full pages of posts with folks ready and willing to help you, and in order to do so they asked one very simple question which is really the only thing that matters here.

That question is, what are you getting as your average miles per Kwh on your trip?

You need to understand that you engaged people to help you, and when they ask you for CRITICAL INFORMATION which is NEEDED to properly answer your question, you constantly refuse to answer.

Instead you start talking about a different model of Mach-E that you previously owned...? Why?

These folks aren't asking you for that information because they have nothing better to do. They are asking you because range is a function of CONSUMPTION per mile traveled x the available supply of fuel (electrons or gas) it doesn't matter. If that number was 3 miles per kwhr then you multiply it by the total amount of energy you can actually use in the pack (which is approximately 89Kwhrs) and you arrive at reasonable range estimate of 267 miles or thereabouts.

If your consumption figures were say 2.4 miles per kilowatt hour, then your range at that rate would be about 214 miles.

The whole reason these folks asked the question is because that simple math using of consumption x 89 kwhr would tell us if you indeed are getting what is to be expected, or if it is wildly off because you do not actually have 89 kwhr available (to use and consume), therfore suggesting a problem with your battery.

With that said, do yourself a favor and help us help you by answering the questions that are clearly being asked for a reason in response to help that YOU asked for.

Is it any wonder why folks on the forum get fed up by the countless questions that come up from people who just do not take the time to understand how and where the range comes from. To make it worse when people to try to help all you do is frustrate folks by going in circles with completely irrelevant information.

To then end the discussion by saying "thanks I got the info I was looking for" without also answering the question is also kind of a dick move. Sure maybe you got the answer you needed and maybe even realized where you messed up. But this is a public forum and others who have the same questions will read through all these pages and still end up with absolutely no answers whatsoever. Why??

 

[amc]

San Diego here as well. For the past year, I've averaged 3.7mi/kWh during the warmer months and 3.3 during the cooler ones. I did two road trips this summer with the 2nd one being to Tucson and back. The 8 and 10 are open, empty and windy highways. At 75mph, I averaged 2.4 and 2.6 mi/kWh for each direction. Thanks to that, my average for the time I've owned the car has dropped to 2.8mi/kWh. The GOM shows 225 mi or so at 90%. It's not a concern since most of my year is spent around town where I know I'll get 3.5 mi/kWh through the year. I don't know how far the back the GOM goes to create its estimate, but eventually it'll come back up. Don't sweat it.

Hi, did you drive over 75mph during the trip? Also, were you driving on unbridled? Did you ise one pedal drive? I am planning to take a roadtrip to the bay area next week, any tip would be helpful, Thanks

 

[Thor2j]

Stop Feeding the troll!!

How can you guys not see this??

He's playing you.

Stop!!

 

[HuntingPudel]

I’m signing off of this thread by saying that the GT-PE has more drag than the Premium, so even with the same motors it’s not as efficient. Now I’m going to ignore this thread. ??

 

[mkhuffman]

Hi, did you drive over 75mph during the trip? Also, were you driving on unbridled? Did you ise one pedal drive? I am planning to take a roadtrip to the bay area next week, any tip would be helpful, Thanks

Speed has a huge impact on range. Tire pressure can also significantly impact range. Mashing on the accelerator can impact range.

I set my cruise on 80 and get around 2.4 mi/kWh. That includes some random slowing down for traffic, but mostly at or close to that speed. If you go faster, it will be significantly worse.

Air resistance exponentially impacts efficiency the faster you go. There is a huge difference between 70 and 80, and even bigger difference between 80 and 90.

 

[Cloris_GT]

I find it absolutely bonkers that I just read through 4 full pages of posts with folks ready and willing to help you, and in order to do so they asked one very simple question which is really the only thing that matters here.

That question is, what are you getting as your average miles per Kwh on your trip?

You need to understand that you engaged people to help you, and when they ask you for CRITICAL INFORMATION which is NEEDED to properly answer your question, you constantly refuse to answer.

Instead you start talking about a different model of Mach-E that you previously owned...? Why?

These folks aren't asking you for that information because they have nothing better to do. They are asking you because range is a function of CONSUMPTION per mile traveled x the available supply of fuel (electrons or gas) it doesn't matter. If that number was 3 miles per kwhr then you multiply it by the total amount of energy you can actually use in the pack (which is approximately 89Kwhrs) and you arrive at reasonable range estimate of 267 miles or thereabouts.

If your consumption figures were say 2.4 miles per kilowatt hour, then your range at that rate would be about 214 miles.

The whole reason these folks asked the question is because that simple math using of consumption x 89 kwhr would tell us if you indeed are getting what is to be expected, or if it is wildly off because you do not actually have 89 kwhr available (to use and consume), therfore suggesting a problem with your battery.

With that said, do yourself a favor and help us help you by answering the questions that are clearly being asked for a reason in response to help that YOU asked for.

Is it any wonder why folks on the forum get fed up by the countless questions that come up from people who just do not take the time to understand how and where the range comes from. To make it worse when people to try to help all you do is frustrate folks by going in circles with completely irrelevant information.

To then end the discussion by saying "thanks I got the info I was looking for" without also answering the question is also kind of a dick move. Sure maybe you got the answer you needed and maybe even realized where you messed up. But this is a public forum and others who have the same questions will read through all these pages and still end up with absolutely no answers whatsoever. Why??

Well, being called a dick makes me much less interested in engaging with SOME users so I will say HAVE A NICE DAY and move along.

 

[Cloris_GT]

Hi, did you drive over 75mph during the trip? Also, were you driving on unbridled? Did you ise one pedal drive? I am planning to take a roadtrip to the bay area next week, any tip would be helpful, Thanks

I did the drive in Engage mode and always using OPD. Blue Cruise was active the entire way on I-8 and I kept the car at or just below the speed limit. This is a route that I drive often so I checked the EA app for station info but there was nothing on the app that said the Dateland station I use often was completely down (and the EA customer srvc rep was less than helpful in finding an alternate charging location). If that station had been active (or there were other L3 charging stations along the way besides Teslas) I would have made the trip with no issues.

Good luck on your trip to SF.

 

[Space Ghost GT]

yup You’ve got a 44.1 kWh pack. How’d I know?

 

[Cloris_GT]

Stop Feeding the troll!!

How can you guys not see this??

He's playing you.

Stop!!

Who the hell are you to call me a troll? I asked a simple question. I got various answers and suggestions. I am satisfied with that so, yes, STOP.

 

[Space Ghost GT]

That’s what trolls say

 

[Cloris_GT]

That’s what trolls say

You would know, Sugar.

 

[Space Ghost GT]

Something stinks in here. You smell that too!? Troll breath

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