Ford should retrofit all previously built Mach-E with Tesla NACS charge port

[agdad]

Ford should schedule ALL previously built mach e's to come in and retro fit the charging plug to a Tesla plug ?

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[corradoborg]

I imagine that would cost thousands of dollars per car. Who would pay for that? Ford isn't going to.

 

[67 Stang Convertible]

These are For Profit Companies. Your car has already been sold. You are much less of a concern than the unsold one. So don't hold your breath. I still chuckle that there are Forum members who think for will send us Free Adapters...................not gonna happen.

 

[Vulnox]

What does Ford do for tens of thousands of home L2 EVSEs that no longer work? Also give already sold vehicles $500+ to replace them?

That would be nice, sure, but it's ridiculous to even entertain it for a moment. Then we would still have adapters because Ford would have to give everyone a J1772 to NACS, and now existing owners have to use an adapter every day instead of just when they go on a roadtrip?

I am glad Ford wouldn't be that shortsighted, even setting aside the financial impact.

 

[BigMach-E]

Yeah, I agree that no one is going to get the adapter for free. The car you bought is a sunk cost for you. No matter what Farley said on squawk box.

All that being said, it should be in the 100-200 dollar range. The real question is the P&C subscription price, which will be needed for access to the Tesla network. We don’t know what that will be, and if the pricing plan for BC sub is any indication, we aren’t going to like it.

If the sub for P&C is 100 or less per year, it might be worth it. Any higher, and I’ll pass. For me, there are enough CCS locally to get along, and I rarely road trip.

 

[Vulnox]

Yeah, I agree that no one is going to get the adapter for free. The car you bought is a sunk cost for you. No matter what Farley said on squawk box.

All that being said, it should be in the 100-200 dollar range. The real question is the P&C subscription price, which will be needed for access to the Tesla network. We don’t know what that will be, and if the pricing plan for BC sub is any indication, we aren’t going to like it.

Now that would be cool, if Ford provided an adapter to anyone that bought 3 years of the Ford network charging sub, assuming it wasn't something like $500 for the 3 years (or worse). If it was $300, so $100/yr and you got the adapter free with your first 3 year renewal, that would be pretty solid. Since this is a thread about dreams may as well join in.

 

[ElectrikPony]

I want to know why can’t Tesla just let us buy a NACS to CCS1 adapter? I’d be willing to pay for the adapter if I could use it on any Tesla supercharger.

 

[Mach1E]

No thanks.

I’m afraid if I plug my Mach E into a Tesla charger it’ll get Chlamydia.

 

[RedStallion]

Ford scheduled ALL previously built mach e's to come in and retro fit the charging plug to a Tesla plug ?

Nope. The routes I usually drive have EA chargers, and neither I'm going to change my home charger. Such "retrofit" would be a downgrade for me.

 

[RickMachE]

This is why companies shouldn't announce things until they are launched. We're going to be reading this kind of stuff for close to a year.

Is it coming yet?

When will they release it?

OMG, just chill!

 

[Auto Motive]

Yeah, I agree that no one is going to get the adapter for free. The car you bought is a sunk cost for you. No matter what Farley said on squawk box.

All that being said, it should be in the 100-200 dollar range. The real question is the P&C subscription price, which will be needed for access to the Tesla network. We don’t know what that will be, and if the pricing plan for BC sub is any indication, we aren’t going to like it.

If the sub for P&C is 100 or less per year, it might be worth it. Any higher, and I’ll pass. For me, there are enough CCS locally to get along, and I rarely road trip.

No one should let Ford recognize any interest in a subscription service for access to a supercharger. Your suggestion leads to yes they will pay and we will raise the price every year for the life! My voice is pay no more sub services.

 

[EasyPass]

Today, I can drive my MME to Fredonia, NY and with a couple of touches on the Tesla Phone App start a session on a Tesla Supercharger outfitted with a magic dock. While that adaptation was a slight one time cost to Tesla, it was as straightforward a solution to universal EV integration in N.A. as there might have been without much general upheaval. I do have to publish my credit card to the Tesla App for this to work, but that's not unlike the same requirement in FordPass/EA or other charge networks like Chargpoin+, EVGo, Blink, etc.

Now with the recent announcements around embracing NACS there is a cloudy future with many unanswered questions. "Adapters and Software" as Farley announced would seem to mainly shift the adapter requirement onto the non-Tesla EV owners and Ford would "eventually" integrate the in-line data communications with the Supercharger into the Fordpass app and the vehicle just like Electrify America is now with Plug and Charge. For that integration to take a year or more seems incomprehensible to me, but the entities involved will go at their designated pace as infurating as that feels. In the end all I get is a Tesla-Plug-and-Charge and an out of pocket expense for an adapter I didn't need before.

While consolidation around "a standard" is probably a good thing in the long run, we have anything but that. Like they say: "The great thing about standards is that there are so many of them." ?

 

[EasyPass]

Today, I can drive my MME to Fredonia, NY and with a couple of touches on the Tesla Phone App start a session on a Tesla Supercharger outfitted with a magic dock. While that adaption was a slight one time cost to Tesla, it was as straightforward a solution to universal EV integration in N.A. as there might have been without much general upheaval. I do have to publish my credit card to the Tesla App for this to work, but that's not unlike the same requirement in FordPass/EA or other charge networks like Chargpoin+, EVGo, Blink, etc.

Now with the recent announcements around embracing NACS there is a cloudy future with many unanswered questions. "Adapters and Software" as Farley announced would seem to mainly shift the adapter requirement onto the non-Tesla EV owners and Ford would "eventually" integrate the in-line data communications with the Supercharger into the Fordpass app and the vehicle just like Electrify America is now with Plug and Charge. For that integration to take a year or more seems incomprehensible to me, but the entities involved will go at their designated pace as infurating as that feels. In the end all I get is a Tesla-Plug-and-Charge and an out of pocket expense for an adapter I didn't need before. Since I will likely purchase one, it would be highly desirable for it to extend the calbe length from the Supercharger alleviating the current issue of parking effectively.

While consolidation around "a standard" is probably a good thing in the long run, we have anything but that. Like they say: "The great thing about standards is that there are so many of them." ?

 

[AKgrampy]

This is why companies shouldn't announce things until they are launched. We're going to be reading this kind of stuff for close to a year.

Is it coming yet?

When will they release it?

OMG, just chill!

Come on - wouldn’t it be better if Ford just replaced my Mach with a new model? That would be even easier and I would surely appreciate it!

 

[BigMach-E]

No one should let Ford recognize any interest in a subscription service for access to a supercharger. Your suggestion leads to yes they will pay and we will raise the price every year for the life! My voice is pay no more sub services.

I understand your stance, but I also think it’s unrealistic, and Ford is gonna do what Ford is gonna do. They have proven this time and time again. You know there is going to be a subscription based service here, right? Nothing you or I can do or say is going to change any of that.

Look at it this way: vote with your dollar. Don’t pay for the sub, lose the functionality. Pay for the sub, gain the functionality that you and no one else was promised at the time of buying the car. I don’t endorse the subscription model, but also, no one told me that I had a snowballs chance in hell of using a Tesla supercharger when I bought the car.

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