Ford should retrofit all previously built Mach-E with Tesla NACS charge port

[brancky3]

Isn't that what I said?

....... maybe ?

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[Auto Motive]

Since Tesla refuses to include a screen and card reader, if I can't do it via plug and charge with fordpass, or need a subscription beyond just the charging session fee, I ain't using it. Eventually the other networks will get their shit together and changing plugs isn't going to have anything to do with it, the uptick in EV adoption and competition will.

If Ford thinks any of us besides the odd ball with too much money to care (why don't you have a Taycan or something at that point?) are gonna pay a subscription for what is, was advertised as, and should be, an inherent feature of the car, they've lost their god damn minds and I certainly won't be buying from or recommending them again.

We have a GTPE and new tesla AWD long range. From the tesla forum many believe our ford pass app will have tesla connections for supercharging.

 

[generaltso]

We have a GTPE and new tesla AWD long range. From the tesla forum many believe our ford pass app will have tesla connections for supercharging.

Ford has already said that we will use the FordPass app for Supercharging.

 

[yazoo888]

Ford should, but they will NOT.

 

[cvk71]

I wonder how much slower the cars will charge with the adapter? My Tesla owning friends say that when they use an adapter to ccs charge it is significantly slower.

 

[devmach-e]

Ford should, but they will NOT.

Why should they spend millions of dollars doing that? When we bought our cars we knew what the charging capabilities that the car had, and which networks they would have access to. And none of that has changed since the announcement.

 

[Logal727]

I wonder how much slower the cars will charge with the adapter? My Tesla owning friends say that when they use an adapter to ccs charge it is significantly slower.

since it's already capped at 150, I'm sure we'll get slightly lower than that, I think most people care more about reliability than speed

 

[mkhuffman]

since it's already capped at 150, I'm sure we'll get slightly lower than that, I think most people care more about reliability than speed

If it can maintain close to the typical MME charging profile, I will be more than satisfied. I just want to know that I can rely on the charger. I don't even care if it costs twice as much, the certainty and peace of mind will be worth it.

 

[Logal727]

Why should they spend millions of dollars doing that? When we bought our cars we knew what the charging capabilities that the car had, and which networks they would have access to. And none of that has changed since the announcement.

I can't believe I keep seeing these "retrofit" threads on here, we're getting an adapter, why would I need to retrofit it? Seems like an extra hassle and expense.

 

[devmach-e]

I can't believe I keep seeing these "retrofit" threads on here, we're getting an adapter, why would I need to retrofit it? Seems like an extra hassle and expense.

Because people don't want to have to lug around a bulky adapter? They want the simplicity and compactness of the NACS port? I can see why some people would want the adapter, and why others would want to retrofit the port at the right price. Choices, they're good to have. But demanding that Ford retrofit our existing cars? Not a viable option...

 

[Keeperofthe7keys]

We have a GTPE and new tesla AWD long range. From the tesla forum many believe our ford pass app will have tesla connections for supercharging.

Wasn't questioning that there, Ford already stated that.

 

[Shayne]

Why should they spend millions of dollars doing that? When we bought our cars we knew what the charging capabilities that the car had, and which networks they would have access to. And none of that has changed since the announcement.

Most assumed that CCS was the North Americana standard as that was what we were informed. We also assumed that CCS would grow but has not and now appears will not. But sure we should of guessed it was just Betamax.

 

[devmach-e]

Most assumed that CCS was the North Americana standard as that was what we were informed. We also assumed that CCS would grow but has not and now appears will not. But sure we should of guessed it was just Betamax.

I don't ever recall thinking that CCS was the North American Standard when I bought the car 13 months ago. I knew that CCS was a standard that most American and European cars were using (including the 2017 Bolt EV I bought in 2017), and the other available standard was CHaDeMo for Japanese cars (mostly just Nissan). And then there was Tesla with their proprietary connector. Which they conveniently renamed in November 2022 the North American Charging Standard. Which is how we got here.

There's going to be transition period here. An adapter will be made available for those of us with the CCS inlet port. CCS Stations will get retrofitted to accommodate NACS. New models of cars will get released that just use NACS. People will move on. In 10 or 15 years no one will care.

 

[Shayne]

I don't ever recall thinking that CCS was the North American Standard when I bought the car 13 months ago. I knew that CCS was a standard that most American and European cars were using (including the 2017 Bolt EV I bought in 2017), and the other available standard was CHaDeMo for Japanese cars (mostly just Nissan). And then there was Tesla with their proprietary connector. Which they conveniently renamed in November 2022 the North American Charging Standard. Which is how we got here.

There's going to be transition period here. An adapter will be made available for those of us with the CCS inlet port. CCS Stations will get retrofitted to accommodate NACS. New models of cars will get released that just use NACS. People will move on. In 10 or 15 years no one will care.

I remember it 3 years ago. May be you were not following it closely? We got caught with Betamax no two ways about it.

 

[devmach-e]

I remember it 3 years ago. May be you were not following it closely? We got caught with Betamax no two ways about it.

I'm on my second EV with CCS. I never assumed it was *the* standard for charging in North America since I was well aware of CCS, CHaDeMo, and Tesla's connectors that were in use. I knew it was a standard that was available, and that EA was building out a charging network that supported CCS and CHaDeMo and Tesla was a separate one.

A lot of people consider Tesla to be the Betamax of the charging wars. At least they did some 8 months ago. Only difference is that in this case, Betamax appears to have won the format war this time around.

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