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To be honest, brand loyalty means nothing to me. If someone wants to tear apart a car I own, I simply nod and say, I am sorry to hear that you are having issues with your car. I usually follow up with either these didn't happen to me or yes, I am having the same issues.

With that being said, I welcome the complaints here on the forum. To hear that someone is happy with their car is like saying I am going to visit my Dentist and tell them that my teeth don't hurt. ?

I personally want to know what to look out for and what to do in case a break down would happen. I didn't build or design this car so I take nothing personal about the defects or the non-defects if you will.

In any event, I am glad to hear that you don't want to complain about a car that you spent thousands of dollars on just a mere two years ago with 20,000 miles. (as it should be with any car)

Start a thread in 10 years and 100,000 miles and if it still good, you are on par for most cars on the road.?
It's not a question of "brand loyalty". If you pay attention, there are a lot of "I want to buy this car but there are so many complaints" threads. Threads like this are a nice offset, even though the complaint threads are still massively skewed. Absolutely there are serious problems encountered by some, and that sucks and I get venting. The plethora of minor issues are another matter. If you look, you can find a complaint about anything. I bet even my wife can find a complaint about me. That doesn't mean it's necessary to air the thought.

Frankly, it's boring as hell seeing the same minor complaints ad infinitum. If the worst thing that happens to someone is that the trip 1 reset button doesn't take the first time it is pressed then they are living a charmed life. Really.
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Just wanted to share that I’ve had my Mach E for almost 2 years. It’s been great in every way; reliable and trouble-free. I realize most forums are used for people having issues or registering complaints. This tends to create a feeling of overwhelming problems and provides a biased perspective for both existing and prospective owners.

I wanted to write a positive comment, and share that I have not had to get service or repairs, I have had no problems that I am just “living with.” I have 20,000 miles on the car and the tire treads are still great, the PAAK works fine, etc.

Not bragging; just trying to share that some (who know how many) of these Mach-E are performing perfectly and as expected.

Wow, this is a breath of fresh air!

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23K miles and 14 months. Best car I have ever owned. Honda, GMC, Chevrolet, Oldmobile, Jeep, Cadillac CTS (close second). No problems to report.
 

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It's not a question of "brand loyalty". If you pay attention, there are a lot of "I want to buy this car but there are so many complaints" threads. Threads like this are a nice offset, even though the complaint threads are still massively skewed. Absolutely there are serious problems encountered by some, and that sucks and I get venting. The plethora of minor issues are another matter. If you look, you can find a complaint about anything. I bet even my wife can find a complaint about me. That doesn't mean it's necessary to air the thought.

Frankly, it's boring as hell seeing the same minor complaints ad infinitum. If the worst thing that happens to someone is that the trip 1 reset button doesn't take the first time it is pressed then they are living a charmed life. Really.
I stand by my "brand loyalty" statement. People for years have put up with subpar quality from many of the domestic brands for years and frankly, they don't even realize it many times because of their blind faith in their particular brand that they drive. I purchased a 2022 Prius and it now has 36,000 miles on it and I have had zero issues with it. While nothing has gone wrong with the car, I don't feel that I need to let other Prius owners know that I have had no issues with it? I want to know if there are issues and see if I can get them remedied before they happen. If Ford made a quality car like the Prius that I drive, this thread would not be "needed" quite frankly. While the Prius is ugly IMHO, it is far superior in the quality comparison to the MME. I just hate that an American product that has been around well over 100 years are still making subpar components on their vehicles. Brand Loyalty is to blame IMO. Ford has calculated that they don't really "need" it to sell a ton of cars.

Don't get me wrong, I love the looks of the MME but for the price I paid and the quality (or lack of) is par for the course when it comes to owning a Ford product. One needs to go back to the early 70's to find "quality" in the craftsmanship with many of the domestic brands. Ever since the mid 70's, people have put up with crap for far too long. Complaining isn't the answer. Purchasing is what will make the Big 3 change at the end of the day. I have owned close to 100 vehicles and the quality drain if you will, has been ever so present in many of the domestic brands that I have owned in comparison to the foreign brands that I have owned. The early 80's (and I own an 81' Corvette btw) is near or close to the bottom of quality. It has ticked up a bit but it still sucks in comparison. My 08 Corvette sucked for build quality as well. It is kind of like sticking with a politician because he/she has "their" letter behind his or her name. If they suck, one needs to call them out on it no matter the letter behind their name.

Like I said before, I am glad that a few feel the need to say they are having no issues but I do encourage those that "complain", to keep me informed of potential problems/issues with the MME. Those that found rust issues is one thread that I am thankful for. I would have hated those that saw rust to simply say, I love my car and have no issues. I will be much more alert to the bottom of the door panels and if I see bubbling, I will part ways with my MME in a heartbeat.

If there are people that are looking to purchase an MME, I am guessing they can filter through the "less important" problems and sift through the "not so minor" problems. Most cars have issues and most people vent. I most likely would have still purchased my MME but it does have a host of problems that should not have happened had the Ford Engineers not been asleep at the wheel.

When Ford starts making quality cars, I will be the first to post the thread titled, "It is about ef'n time!!" ;)
 

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2 years 15k. Not my favorite car I've owned (protege 5) and too soon to say if it's the best. Flawless? No, but it's a solid choice for a bev.
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Just wanted to share that I’ve had my Mach E for almost 2 years. It’s been great in every way; reliable and trouble-free. I realize most forums are used for people having issues or registering complaints. This tends to create a feeling of overwhelming problems and provides a biased perspective for both existing and prospective owners.

I wanted to write a positive comment, and share that I have not had to get service or repairs, I have had no problems that I am just “living with.” I have 20,000 miles on the car and the tire treads are still great, the PAAK works fine, etc.

Not bragging; just trying to share that some (who know how many) of these Mach-E are performing perfectly and as expected.
Amazing, my experience mirrors this almost exactly.
 
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I stand by my "brand loyalty" statement. People for years have put up with subpar quality from many of the domestic brands for years and frankly, they don't even realize it many times because of their blind faith in their particular brand that they drive. I purchased a 2022 Prius and it now has 36,000 miles on it and I have had zero issues with it. While nothing has gone wrong with the car, I don't feel that I need to let other Prius owners know that I have had no issues with it? I want to know if there are issues and see if I can get them remedied before they happen. If Ford made a quality car like the Prius that I drive, this thread would not be "needed" quite frankly. While the Prius is ugly IMHO, it is far superior in the quality comparison to the MME. I just hate that an American product that has been around well over 100 years are still making subpar components on their vehicles. Brand Loyalty is to blame IMO. Ford has calculated that they don't really "need" it to sell a ton of cars.

Don't get me wrong, I love the looks of the MME but for the price I paid and the quality (or lack of) is par for the course when it comes to owning a Ford product. One needs to go back to the early 70's to find "quality" in the craftsmanship with many of the domestic brands. Ever since the mid 70's, people have put up with crap for far too long. Complaining isn't the answer. Purchasing is what will make the Big 3 change at the end of the day. I have owned close to 100 vehicles and the quality drain if you will, has been ever so present in many of the domestic brands that I have owned in comparison to the foreign brands that I have owned. The early 80's (and I own an 81' Corvette btw) is near or close to the bottom of quality. It has ticked up a bit but it still sucks in comparison. My 08 Corvette sucked for build quality as well. It is kind of like sticking with a politician because he/she has "their" letter behind his or her name. If they suck, one needs to call them out on it no matter the letter behind their name.

Like I said before, I am glad that a few feel the need to say they are having no issues but I do encourage those that "complain", to keep me informed of potential problems/issues with the MME. Those that found rust issues is one thread that I am thankful for. I would have hated those that saw rust to simply say, I love my car and have no issues. I will be much more alert to the bottom of the door panels and if I see bubbling, I will part ways with my MME in a heartbeat.

If there are people that are looking to purchase an MME, I am guessing they can filter through the "less important" problems and sift through the "not so minor" problems. Most cars have issues and most people vent. I most likely would have still purchased my MME but it does have a host of problems that should not have happened had the Ford Engineers not been asleep at the wheel.

When Ford starts making quality cars, I will be the first to post the thread titled, "It is about ef'n time!!" ;)
I'm not sure what an '08 corvette has to do with a Mach-E in 2023, but ok.

In 2021 - TWO DECADEs on the market - US news ranked the Prius 10th of 17 hybrids. GW Bush had better grades in college than that. They are known for eating oil, engine problems, and windshields cracking, unintended acceleration, etc. They also have FAR less software in them than the Mach-E, and software takes a long time to get stable - and then somebody adds a bunch of features that introduces a whole new set of bugs.
 

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It's as if people forget that we can see your comment history. That goes for everyone, not the just OP.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ge-door-come-on-ford.5149/page-16#post-519155
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/how-can-i-tell-if-21ps22-update-was-installed.12860/
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ing-back-to-ford-permanently.9697/post-249036

Anyway. The MachE has a ton of potential and it's a really fun car. I desperately wish that Ford would get their shit together and fix some of these long standing bugs. They need to listen to the feedback from the community and their EAP program. People are begging them to make minor tweaks to improve the car, and some people would even pay for it. If they did I think a lot of people would really appreciate it and we would naturally see less complaints.
 
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It's as if people forget that we can see your comment history. That goes for everyone, not the just OP.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ge-door-come-on-ford.5149/page-16#post-519155

Anyway. The MachE has a ton of potential and it's a really fun car. I desperately wish that Ford would get their shit together and fix some of these long standing bugs. They need to listen to the feedback from the community and their EAP program. People are begging them to make minor tweaks to improve the car, and a lot of people would even pay for it. If they did I think a lot of people would really appreciate it.
Yes. 2.5 years in, and all we got was a camera button, the knob to control temp and fan speed, and a more confusing button location for the trunk. No other UI changes even though customers have lots of good suggestions. The fixes for minor bugs end up getting delayed indefinitely. I don't think they give a damn about improving the existing product anymore and laid off the people that could have. Lesson learned. With Ford, what you get on day 1 will be 98% the same three years in the future.
 

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I'm not sure what an '08 corvette has to do with a Mach-E in 2023, but ok.

In 2021 - TWO DECADEs on the market - US news ranked the Prius 10th of 17 hybrids. GW Bush had better grades in college than that. They are known for eating oil, engine problems, and windshields cracking, unintended acceleration, etc. They also have FAR less software in them than the Mach-E, and software takes a long time to get stable - and then somebody adds a bunch of features that introduces a whole new set of bugs.
I was using the 08' Corvette as an example of the crap that many Domestic brand vehicles put out in the market along with establishing that nothing much has changed since the mid 70's. Fast forward to today and we still have issues.

The Prius does/has had issues and I welcome the information in knowing that from those that drive said car. Just out of curiosity, how many Prius cars have you owned? You seem to know a good deal about them. I have owned 6 and I have owned 2 Mustangs. I take no offense hearing of the issues of said cars that I have owned. Unless you can speak from personal experience, I will take your assessment with a grain of salt. ?

The MME is manufactured by a Company that has been around 100 plus years and they still have quality issues that are quite glaring.
 

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I have a 2022 Select with C/T package and have had 0 problems. Love the car. My only issue is I have been stuck at 4.1.1 since January 18.
 

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Between my Mach-E and Lightning, I've gotten exactly what I expected. Issues? Yes, and I expected them.

The transition to EVs will be painful, and companies like Ford won't get everything right, and will struggle at times. They aren't a startup, and they don't act like one, and may never.

No surprise to me.
 

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It's as if people forget that we can see your comment history. That goes for everyone, not the just OP.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ge-door-come-on-ford.5149/page-16#post-519155
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/how-can-i-tell-if-21ps22-update-was-installed.12860/
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ing-back-to-ford-permanently.9697/post-249036

Anyway. The MachE has a ton of potential and it's a really fun car. I desperately wish that Ford would get their shit together and fix some of these long standing bugs. They need to listen to the feedback from the community and their EAP program. People are begging them to make minor tweaks to improve the car, and some people would even pay for it. If they did I think a lot of people would really appreciate it and we would naturally see less complaints.
Amen brother.
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