Cybertruck AWD $79,990 Before Tax Incentives

[Mach1E]

Except it literally says on the web sight "Probable Savings" and then goes on to say;

Prices assume $7,500 IRA Federal Tax
Credit (not all customers qualify)
and est. gas savings of $3,000 over 3 years.
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And, if that's not enough it is impossible to click on any button to order any Tesla without having a firm price, the real price!

But hey, I am no lawyer and don't understand all about lawsuits but I if I was a judge I would say, get the heck out of my courtroom with this tripe!

And just curios here but why all the angst against a company that you have no obligation whatsoever to deal with, I just don't get it?

Probably my marketing background, but I hate dishonesty whenever I see it.

The “from” price isn’t a from price. Zero people can buy the car at that price.

It’s misleading and dishonest at the very least and illegal at its worst. But that would be for a jury to decide.

And no, adding a disclaimer to a lie doesn’t excuse it.

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[Mach1E]

You didn't order a cybertruck in 2019. You put down a small refundable deposit for a reservation spot for the opportunity to order the CT in the future.

With Tesla pricing, sometimes it goes up, other times it comes way down. It's all based on supply and demand at the time you buy it. But once you lock into a contract, the price will be fixed and not go up any higher. But can go lower.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

That's how Tesla does all its new vehicle launches.

It’s hard to understand because Tesla plays games.

Bait and switch.

They “estimate” an affordable price (and reasonable rollout date) to con millions to give them what resulted in an interest free $250,000,000 loan and then raise the price and delay by years and repay that loan on any cancelled orders at 0% interest.

Genius!

 

[nvabill]

Probably my marketing background, but I hate dishonesty whenever I see it.

The “from” price isn’t a from price. Zero people can buy the car at that price.

It’s misleading and dishonest at the very least and illegal at its worst. But that would be for a jury to decide.

And no, adding a disclaimer to a lie doesn’t excuse it.

I get what you are saying but Guess we have to agree to disagree.

 

[nvabill]

It’s hard to understand because Tesla plays games.

Bait and switch.

They “estimate” an affordable price (and reasonable rollout date) to con millions to give them what resulted in an interest free $250,000,000 loan and then raise the price and delay by years and repay that loan on any cancelled orders at 0% interest.

Genius!

Is that so different from what other manufacturers have done, it is very similar to Ford's rollout of the Bronco?

 

[Mach1E]

Is that so different from what other manufacturers have done, it is very similar to Ford's rollout of the Bronco?

I would have the same complaint against any manufacturer who took deposits then raised the price.

Maybe the only difference would be the volume of deposits and amount of the increase. Tesla definitely would be the biggest offender on the list, but not the only one on the list.

$250 million in deposits on a $50k truck, only to get the call years later with the option to buy a $100k truck or get skipped on the list has to be the worst example in the group.

 

[LincolnLuvr]

How long will it be before Elon cuts the price of the Cybertruck? I'm putting it at a year, tops.

 

[Mach1E]

How long will it be before Elon cuts the price of the Cybertruck? I'm putting it at a year, tops.

I think it’ll take longer based on the slow rollout.

Really depends on if the early adopters are able to flip their orders at a profit.
If so, that could keep “demand” going for a while.

I just don’t know how big the market for odd 1000 hp pickup trucks could be.

BEV manufacturers keep answering the questions no one was asking…….. for large trucks, sedans and SUVs with 1000 hp or so.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

I think it’ll take longer based on the slow rollout.

Really depends on if the early adopters are able to flip their orders at a profit.
If so, that could keep “demand” going for a while.

I just don’t know how big the market for odd 1000 hp pickup trucks could be.

BEV manufacturers keep answering the questions no one was asking…….. for large trucks, sedans and SUVs with 1000 hp or so.

HP and range goes hand in hand unlike ICE cars.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

How long will it be before Elon cuts the price of the Cybertruck? I'm putting it at a year, tops.

Doubt it. There's still a back log of pre-order and Tesla can't ramp up enough to fill those orders in a year.

Tesla has always priced their cars based on demand, both raising and lowering prices. They try to keep their factories working at full capacity and adjust prices to compensate. Other OEMs decrease production.

 

[nvabill]

I would have the same complaint against any manufacturer who took deposits then raised the price.

Maybe the only difference would be the volume of deposits and amount of the increase. Tesla definitely would be the biggest offender on the list, but not the only one on the list.

$250 million in deposits on a $50k truck, only to get the call years later with the option to buy a $100k truck or get skipped on the list has to be the worst example in the group.

You know I thought more about what you said on the pricing/cost shown on the web sight. While I agree with you that it is misleading and the default should be the purchase price I don't believe it rises to the extent of a lawsuit. I base that on the fact that in order to place an order you can not do it without agreeing to the purchase or lease price shown. But, again I agree it is misleading at best.

 

[nvabill]

How long will it be before Elon cuts the price of the Cybertruck? I'm putting it at a year, tops.

Like the others I believe it will be demand and inventory based.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Oh I don’t mind I find it comical reading about all the Elon Musk and Tesla hate on the forum. Sometimes I think @ChasingCoral works for Ford with what he says. I mean seriously how else can you explain him purposely omitting the Lightning range deficit while calling Tesla out? ?

Because those were the tables that came up when I googled for it.

 

[nvabill]

Because those were the tables that came up when I googled for it.

I googled the exact sight you posted, scrolled down and easily found the Lightning Lariat ER and saw the negative 15.6% range that was posted. And, this is from the exact same people you quoted while trashing Tesla! ?

https://insideevs.com/reviews/443791/ev-range-test-results/

What I found interesting is that Tesla ratings fell below this at 10-12% making them better than the Lightning. Now with that said and to be fair the Mach E is negative 6% and the Lightning Pro is negative, if memory serves me right, also 6%.

So, my question is, why is Tesla so evil as you say and Ford so virtuous, they both lie about the range and while the MME & Lightning Pro are better than the Tesla claims the Ford Lightning is much worse?

 

[ChehRob]

The rise in prices does not entail any legal obligation on the part of Tesla. But a continued rise per year, if extended over the next two years when my number will come up, would have that middle model's original advertised price of $50K, now $80K up a whole lot more by the time Tesla is prepared to give a definite price. Another poster suggested that Tesla will be reducing CT prices in the near future (may have been on a Tesla Blog). I suspect they will continue going up, but not as sharply. I am keeping my number, some place just after 277,000

 

[Mach1E]

HP and range goes hand in hand unlike ICE cars.

Yes and no.

More hp equals less range (but it’s not nearly as detrimental as in ICE).

But more hp definitely equals more cost.

Either way, the market wasn’t exactly clamoring for 1000+ hp daily drivers. And I’ve always been a horsepower junkie! I just spent the weekend watching 5000 hp pro mods and 28,000 hp jet cars go down the drag strip.

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