Cybertruck AWD $79,990 Before Tax Incentives

[dbsb3233]

In your previous post you state that of those surveyed 6% paid over msrp.

So, with that said my question is this, what percentage of Tesla purchasers paid over msrp for their vehicle.

Some paid over MSRP, but some paid under MSRP (like me with X-Plan). Likely more the latter than the former, adding up to a net under. Especially within this forum as they tend to be better informed from access to so much info from other posters.

This tangent is a frequently argued topic, of course. There's pros and cons to both pricing methods (fixed MSRP vs negotiated market price). Also depends a lot on the state of the market. 2021 & 2022 were seller's markets (more demand than supply), so it was harder to get a below-MSRP deal. Now it's turned around and below-MSRP is far more common. As it usually is in normal years.

But of course that's all relative to MSRP, which is hardly the "right" price either. We have a tendency to think there's something sacrosanct about MSRP, but it's rather arbitrary too. Tesla changes it almost monthly at times trying to keep it close to market price, whereas legacy tends to keep it at the same price for all/most of the year and uses manufacturer incentives and dealer negotiation to arrive at market price. No right or wrong to either method. Just different. Fixed is easier, to be sure, but the ability for savvy buyers to get a good deal is worse. Conversely, clueles buyers often pay more. That's the free market.

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[Ghost Ryder]

You can't do that with Tesla. Try going to a Tesla store with a Cybertruck on display right now and telling them you want to buy it. They will tell you to put in a pre-order and then you may get it in few years (who knows what the price will be).

When people were paying markups on the Mach-E it was their choice. Put in an order and wait about 8 months for one at MSRP or buy one right then and pay the markup.




I don't know, a lot of the people here are very enthusiastic and may have paid to "skip the line" like I said above.

This is all sorta irrelevant. Nothing changes the fact that the prices on the Tesla website are for a pre-order and they are estimated. Meanwhile, I can go to Ford's website right now and order a Lightning and even get a $7,500 Ford incentive. And I know what price I will be paying. Yes, I'll have to say no to the dealer offering PPF and nitrogen in the tires. But that's ok, No is an easy word.

It's estimated because you can't order one yet. They have to work through their back log of pre-order first. Once you're actually able to place your order like all their other cars, then the price will be fixed.

 

[nvabill]

Some paid over MSRP, but some paid under MSRP (like me with X-Plan). Likely more the latter than the former, adding up to a net under. Especially within this forum as they tend to be better informed from access to so much info from other posters.

This tangent is a frequently argued topic, of course. There's pros and cons to both pricing methods (fixed MSRP vs negotiated market price). Also depends a lot on the state of the market. 2021 & 2022 were seller's markets (more demand than supply), so it was harder to get a below-MSRP deal. Now it's turned around and below-MSRP is far more common. As it usually is in normal years.

But of course that's all relative to MSRP, which is hardly the "right" price either. We have a tendency to think there's something sacrosanct about MSRP, but it's rather arbitrary too. Tesla changes it almost monthly at times trying to keep it close to market price, whereas legacy tends to keep it at the same price for all/most of the year and uses manufacturer incentives and dealer negotiation to arrive at market price. No right or wrong to either method. Just different. Fixed is easier, to be sure, but the ability for savvy buyers to get a good deal is worse. Conversely, clueles buyers often pay more. That's the free market.

Yes, I agree, definitely pros and cons for each way of doing it.

 

[nvabill]

It's estimated because you can't order one yet. They have to work through their back log of pre-order first. Once you're actually able to place your order like all their other cars, then the price will be fixed.

That is what I was thinking, when your order, not pre order, a Tesla it is straight up priced at what the exact amount is that you will pay at delivery, I find that pretty good!

 

[Mach1E]

Just so everybody knows, the price is NOT $68,890. That is the price after Tesla's bullshit that they always default to (after tax rebate, after gas savings, etc.). You need to click the 'Purchase Price' tab to see the ACTUAL price ($79,990).

Shocked they haven’t been sued over this.

You can’t include money people hypocritically won’t spend on something else when advertising a purchase price.

Can the grocery store advertise eggs at “negative $50” because of “potential savings for not having to buy, house and feed a chicken?”

 

[Ghost Ryder]

Shocked they haven’t been sued over this.

You can’t include money people hypocritically won’t spend on something else when advertising a purchase price.

Can the grocery store advertise eggs at “negative $50” because of “potential savings for not having to buy, house and feed a chicken?”

Asterisks. Baby. Asterisks. But really it’s pretty obvious on their website. It’s not like they hide the purchase price tab. In addition once you actually go through with the order the final price is given. Not like dealers. It’s a crapshoot.

 

[ChehRob]

I ordered the CyberTruck at $50K in 2019, now Tesla wants 80K, who knows what it will be in 2025 when my number comes up! Think I would rather deal with a dealer.

 

[nvabill]

Shocked they haven’t been sued over this.

You can’t include money people hypocritically won’t spend on something else when advertising a purchase price.

Can the grocery store advertise eggs at “negative $50” because of “potential savings for not having to buy, house and feed a chicken?”

Except you literally can not order it without seeing the price you are paying or leasing it for. What would be your cause of action in the lawsuit and what compensation would you want? ?

 

[nvabill]

I ordered the CyberTruck at $50K in 2019, now Tesla wants 80K, who knows what it will be in 2025 when my number comes up! Think I would rather deal with a dealer.

Don't you mean you placed a $100 deposit to hold a place in line for when ordering became available? ?

 

[Mach1E]

Except you literally can not order it without seeing the price you are paying or leasing it for. What would be your cause of action in the lawsuit and what compensation would you want? ?

It would be pretty straightforward.

The website says “from $X.”

I would like everyone who paid more than $X to be reimbursed.

Truth in advertising is legit.

Add it to the list of lies that start at the top from this company.

Feel free to explain though how “potential gas savings” lowers the price I pay for a new Tesla. ?

 

[nvabill]

It would be pretty straightforward.

The website says “from $X.”

I would like everyone who paid more than $X to be reimbursed.

Truth in advertising is legit.

Add it to the list of lies that start at the top from this company.

Feel free to explain though how “potential gas savings” lowers the price I pay for a new Tesla. ?

Except it literally says on the web sight "Probable Savings" and then goes on to say;

Prices assume $7,500 IRA Federal Tax
Credit (not all customers qualify)
and est. gas savings of $3,000 over 3 years.
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And, if that's not enough it is impossible to click on any button to order any Tesla without having a firm price, the real price!

But hey, I am no lawyer and don't understand all about lawsuits but I if I was a judge I would say, get the heck out of my courtroom with this tripe!

And just curios here but why all the angst against a company that you have no obligation whatsoever to deal with, I just don't get it?

 

[ChehRob]

Yes I ordered at $50K, (deposit $100). That was the estimated price at the time, or were you just enjoying being pedantic. I do that sometimes myself?

 

[nvabill]

Yes I ordered at $50K, (deposit $100). That was the estimated price at the time, or were you just enjoying being pedantic. I do that sometimes myself?

No, not at all, just trying to understand how the Cybertruck order process was set up.

Let me give you an example, when Ford accepted the $100 deposit for the rollout of the new Bronco it was just to hold a place in line. You would then be contacted by Ford to actually place an order.

But, as you are telling me that is not how the Tesla Cybertruck deal was structured. Everything I read was that the $100 deposit was for a preorder and not an order but I guess I was mistaken.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

I ordered the CyberTruck at $50K in 2019, now Tesla wants 80K, who knows what it will be in 2025 when my number comes up! Think I would rather deal with a dealer.

You didn't order a cybertruck in 2019. You put down a small refundable deposit for a reservation spot for the opportunity to order the CT in the future.

With Tesla pricing, sometimes it goes up, other times it comes way down. It's all based on supply and demand at the time you buy it. But once you lock into a contract, the price will be fixed and not go up any higher. But can go lower.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

That's how Tesla does all its new vehicle launches.

 

[nvabill]

You didn't order a cybertruck in 2019. You put down a small refundable deposit for a reservation spot for the opportunity to order the CT in the future.

With Tesla pricing, sometimes it goes up, other times it comes way down. It's all based on supply and demand at the time you buy it. But once you lock into a contract, the price will be fixed and not go up any higher. But can go lower.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

That's how Tesla does all its new vehicle launches.

That's what I thought also but Rob says he actually placed an order. I will however say that every article I read says the $100 was for a preorder which goes with what you say.

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