Cybertruck AWD $79,990 Before Tax Incentives

[Mach1E]

You know I thought more about what you said on the pricing/cost shown on the web sight. While I agree with you that it is misleading and the default should be the purchase price I don't believe it rises to the extent of a lawsuit. I base that on the fact that in order to place an order you can not do it without agreeing to the purchase or lease price shown. But, again I agree it is misleading at best.

Not sure someone would win a lawsuit, just surprised no one has tried.

Companies try to push the envelope until someone pushes back.

I just don’t like when companies purposefully try to mislead consumers.

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[superdave80]

Asterisks. Baby. Asterisks. But really it’s pretty obvious on their website. It’s not like they hide the purchase price tab. In addition once you actually go through with the order the final price is given. Not like dealers. It’s a crapshoot.

And yet the OP was tricked into posting the BS price, so it was hidden well enough...

 

[TheSteelRider]

Just one dumb old man's opinion, but I'm not seeing logic in the Cybertruck. Not seeing much logic either in the Hummer EV, Lightning, or Silverado.

We should have been giving people little economy cars first.

The argument is that it helps overall to get the biggest, most destructive vehicles off the road first.

Not sure I buy into that.

The Tesla semi makes a little more sense, but the ultimate solution for the most part is going to be to stop the delay improving the US rail system. We can argue how much money the Tesla semi saves us, but it is even heavier and more destructive to the roadways than a conventional semi.

Just wanted to disagree with that last point (although agree with the rest whole-heartedly!).

The DOT has size and weight limits that all vehicles must adhere to, regardless of drivetrain. Now, want to put a caveat out there that I think the DOT was considering increasing the limit by 10k lbs for EV trucks, but I'm not a trucker nor a believer in BEV big rigs so I can't say for certain.

Here are Texas DOT limits, but I'm pretty sure these are derived from and near or at equivalence to federal DOT limits: https://www.txdmv.gov/motor-carriers/oversize-overweight-permits/texas-size-weight-limits

 

[Auto Motive]

Really? The Lightening or Silverado in base trim give much more range, much more power and acceleration, and are much cheaper. So that trim level you are paying for looks. Higher trims you can get the crazy power that others dont offer.

Great price as the cybertruck will be huge at any auction. Rich want the latest and greatest at any price. Bronco Demon Hellcats Raptor Jeep c8 vette all auction winners.

 

[nvabill]

And yet the OP was tricked into posting the BS price, so it was hidden well enough...

Not quite, I copied the amount from another forum I am on without independently verifying it myself. So no, no trickery from Tesla, just laziness on my part. I know, I know, my bad!

 

[nvabill]

Great price as the cybertruck will be huge at any auction. Rich want the latest and greatest at any price. Bronco Demon Hellcats Raptor Jeep c8 vette all auction winners.

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[superdave80]

Not quite, I copied the amount from another forum I am on without independently verifying it myself. So no, no trickery from Tesla, just laziness on my part. I know, I know, my bad!

You're kidding, right? I'll give you just a moment to think about how/why the wrong amount was posted on that forum...

 

[Ghost Ryder]

And yet the OP was tricked into posting the BS price, so it was hidden well enough...

I wouldn’t say he was tricked as the title of the thread that he wrote list the correct price. Hence he was aware of the price without potential savings.

 

[TheSteelRider]

I took the time to read every post in this thread, and I have to say it has been more enjoyable than any other thread in a while!

I remember fondly setting the reservation for my Mach E in last 2019. At the time, the Mach E was just a sketch in a notebook for us. I am happy to say that when the order banks opened, the final pricing for the Mach E was almost exactly what Ford had stated it would be. I was presented with a single page with actual pricing. I clicked the order button to put $500 down. When the car arrived, I went to the dealership and spent about 30 minutes signing a couple of papers and waiting for them to give the car a good wash.

Now, I understand this might not have been everyone's experience. I recall when the order banks opened that some people, I seem to remember largely in California believe it or not, had some dealers attempt to not honor the order price, but none other than Jim Farley himself stepped in and corrected that issue fairly swiftly as I recall.

After production was ramped up and vehicles started to be sent to dealer lots unencumbered by an order, I do recall some posts on this forum of some $5k+ ADM at times. I recall in a lot or all of these threads that many members of this forum pleaded with the buyers to not agree to those terms just to get their cars "right now". But, many of them did anyway. I am struggling to understand why this is some flaw in the dealership model? If you specifically desire to over-pay for your vehicle, and you see it right there in writing on your deal sheet "ADM = $5,000" then more power to you.

What's super funny is the claim that "other car manufacturers" are not pulling the same ADM malarky as the dealership model. I can be a fan of Tesla for pioneering this new category of vehicle, while simultaneously being disappointed in the constant price changes. If one is objective, one has to admit that Tesla has very frequently modified the price of their vehicles. This is the exact same mechanism as ADM at the dealer. And, if consumers do not like the price, then they don't have to click buy.

Surely we can all agree that Tesla plays the pricing game HEAVILY. Can we not at least agree that, magically, the price of "Full Self Driving" seems to always magically change just about when Tesla is having a bad quarter, or seems to need a cash infusion.

I think the ire of some folks on this forum about the "Probable Savings" on Tesla's website is related to this fact, that Tesla is exactly the same as all other car dealers -- they are clearly trying to extract money from you by hook or by crook. But, for some reason Tesla supporters for the most part (not all I admit, but a large majority) seem to gloss over that, so it gets frustrustating.

I'd love it for BEVs to succeed, and eventually replace all ICE cars. But, it will never get there if we prop up ANY company for blatant misrepresentation or lies. We have to hold all car manufacturers, and yes this includes Ford and includes Tesla, to uphold high standards. We on this forum are all early adopters, and we can put up with some of this nonsense. But, the average person is just not going to, especially with all the other FUD around EVs these days.

Can't we all just get along?

 

[superdave80]

I wouldn’t say he was tricked as the title of the thread that he wrote list the correct price. Hence he was aware of the price without potential savings.

He fixed the title only after it was pointed out to him that the price was wrong. The wrong price is still in his first post.

 

[MachEMaster]

$108k CAD for AWD Cybertruck, $130k CAD for Cyberbeast. I don't see these being a large success around these parts.

 

[nvabill]

You're kidding, right? I'll give you just a moment to think about how/why the wrong amount was posted on that forum...

No, I’m not kidding and how would I know what’s in someone else’s mind when they post something? It would be pure speculation and conjecture on my part.

 

[nvabill]

I wouldn’t say he was tricked as the title of the thread that he wrote list the correct price. Hence he was aware of the price without potential savings.

I changed the title after the correct amount was pointed out to me.

 

[Auto Motive]

I took the time to read every post in this thread, and I have to say it has been more enjoyable than any other thread in a while!

I remember fondly setting the reservation for my Mach E in last 2019. At the time, the Mach E was just a sketch in a notebook for us. I am happy to say that when the order banks opened, the final pricing for the Mach E was almost exactly what Ford had stated it would be. I was presented with a single page with actual pricing. I clicked the order button to put $500 down. When the car arrived, I went to the dealership and spent about 30 minutes signing a couple of papers and waiting for them to give the car a good wash.

Now, I understand this might not have been everyone's experience. I recall when the order banks opened that some people, I seem to remember largely in California believe it or not, had some dealers attempt to not honor the order price, but none other than Jim Farley himself stepped in and corrected that issue fairly swiftly as I recall.

After production was ramped up and vehicles started to be sent to dealer lots unencumbered by an order, I do recall some posts on this forum of some $5k+ ADM at times. I recall in a lot or all of these threads that many members of this forum pleaded with the buyers to not agree to those terms just to get their cars "right now". But, many of them did anyway. I am struggling to understand why this is some flaw in the dealership model? If you specifically desire to over-pay for your vehicle, and you see it right there in writing on your deal sheet "ADM = $5,000" then more power to you.

What's super funny is the claim that "other car manufacturers" are not pulling the same ADM malarky as the dealership model. I can be a fan of Tesla for pioneering this new category of vehicle, while simultaneously being disappointed in the constant price changes. If one is objective, one has to admit that Tesla has very frequently modified the price of their vehicles. This is the exact same mechanism as ADM at the dealer. And, if consumers do not like the price, then they don't have to click buy.

Surely we can all agree that Tesla plays the pricing game HEAVILY. Can we not at least agree that, magically, the price of "Full Self Driving" seems to always magically change just about when Tesla is having a bad quarter, or seems to need a cash infusion.

I think the ire of some folks on this forum about the "Probable Savings" on Tesla's website is related to this fact, that Tesla is exactly the same as all other car dealers -- they are clearly trying to extract money from you by hook or by crook. But, for some reason Tesla supporters for the most part (not all I admit, but a large majority) seem to gloss over that, so it gets frustrustating.

I'd love it for BEVs to succeed, and eventually replace all ICE cars. But, it will never get there if we prop up ANY company for blatant misrepresentation or lies. We have to hold all car manufacturers, and yes this includes Ford and includes Tesla, to uphold high standards. We on this forum are all early adopters, and we can put up with some of this nonsense. But, the average person is just not going to, especially with all the other FUD around EVs these days.

Can't we all just get along?

We hit the open banks early and ordered a 2021 GTPE fully optioned. Oct 2021 car was ready for pickup. Our dealer was told several times our car was not to be used as a test drive ev on the weekend since the car would be ready on a Monday. The car was not washed not fully charged and paperwork needed to be completed. We waited over an hour, stuck with a untrained unkept salesman, service person was told everal times we wanted the Ford ext warranty and at time to sign contract he slipped in a third party warranty. I asked why when we wanted the Ford. He said he grabbed the wrong form. We didnt even finance the car and it took over 2.5 hrs. The car was washed but look like they didnt use water or soap and was really bad with dry dirt streaks. I checked for scratches and luckily none seen. Got in the car to leave and saw 100% at 200 miles with 70 deg temps. I called him out from the office and asked him why at 200 miles and 39 miles on odometer but 2 miles on temp title papers. Excuses, lies and we left in a hurry so angry. We checked trip history showing 1.5 kwh on a 37 mile trip racing it that weekend. Manager never returned my calls. Last time I went this dealer and gave them 1 review. Bought a 2023 Model Y AWD long range and took us 30 minutes in and out. Never buying from a dealer ever. Tesla was easy, professional staff and great follow ups in the weeks that passed. My wife said it was because we are in our 70s and treated like were idiots buying a ev.

 

[nvabill]

He fixed the title only after it was pointed out to him that the price was wrong. The wrong price is still in his first post.

Thanks I changed that one also, is everybody happy now?

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