NHTSA has closed the investigation into the HVBJB

[Mache_Nor]

So it would seem to me that the HVBJB that Ford has been installing since May 25th 2022 must be satisfactory enough to meet HNTSA’s safety requirements. Otherwise I would think they would have waited to see how any “new” part performed before closing the investigation. My GT is still on the original HVBJB and my guess is mostly due to minimal hi-way driving and colder temps. Not really worried about it either but it does seem odd that it has been a couple of months now with no further update from Ford.

If so, then many people will be screwed. I replaced the HVBJB at end of last year, and it failed a month ago. Got a new one now, and from what I’ve been told the late 2023 HVBJB is different than the one before. This means any HVBJB changed before November / December 2023 is only a matter of time before it breaks. The only hope is that it happens within the warranty periode.

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[AKgrampy]

If so, then many people will be screwed. I replaced the HVBJB at end of last year, and it failed a month ago. Got a new one now, and from what I’ve been told the late 2023 HVBJB is different than the one before. This means any HVBJB changed before November / December 2023 is only a matter of time before it breaks. The only hope is that it happens within the warranty periode.

Please do not take my thoughts as gospel; however, cars manufactured after May of 22 are not part of the recall. From what I have read and seen there has been no change to the HVBJB other than Ford went with new contactors after May of 22 but I could be wrong.

 

[DevSecOps]

So it would seem to me that the HVBJB that Ford has been installing since May 25th 2022 must be satisfactory enough to meet HNTSA’s safety requirements. Otherwise I would think they would have waited to see how any “new” part performed before closing the investigation. My GT is still on the original HVBJB and my guess is mostly due to minimal hi-way driving and colder temps. Not really worried about it either but it does seem odd that it has been a couple of months now with no further update from Ford.

I guess that depends on who you ask. I've never seen another EV have so many issues with the HVBJB. Ford continues to have failures even after May 22. NHTSA closed the first case as well after Ford proposed the software not-a-fix. NHTSA goes based on the response from Ford if they feel it's satisfactory.

Like the article said, they reserve the right to open it again, which is what they did after the first recall. Let's not forget, this is the second recall for the same thing. Let's also not forget that this article is from a Ford fanboy website.

If the failures are still happening at a high rate it's up to those with failures to step up and complain to NHTSA. NHTSA doesn't go around monitoring work orders.

 

[mlhunt856]

Anyone had a recall letter over this? Haven't heard diddly squat.

I got two recall letters. Basically said the recall was open on both of our cars and they'd be in contact about scheduling, I guess when they have the parts ready.

 

[RickMachE]

Well, my new HVBJB seems to be holding up pretty well so far. The additional news that the new hardware + software is good enough for the NHTSA gives me some added peace-of-mind.

That is not what they said. They said the PLAN, to replace it, is acceptable. No where do they test the part and then make a conclusion.

So it would seem to me that the HVBJB that Ford has been installing since May 25th 2022 must be satisfactory enough to meet HNTSA’s safety requirements. Otherwise I would think they would have waited to see how any “new” part performed before closing the investigation. My GT is still on the original HVBJB and my guess is mostly due to minimal hi-way driving and colder temps. Not really worried about it either but it does seem odd that it has been a couple of months now with no further update from Ford.

I don't think they ever wait. Company says "we're putting in a newly designed part", and they say "okie dokie".

 

[AllenXS]

If so, then many people will be screwed. I replaced the HVBJB at end of last year, and it failed a month ago. Got a new one now, and from what I’ve been told the late 2023 HVBJB is different than the one before. This means any HVBJB changed before November / December 2023 is only a matter of time before it breaks. The only hope is that it happens within the warranty periode.

It should be under the eight year warranty.

 

[AKgrampy]

That is not what they said. They said the PLAN, to replace it, is acceptable. No where do they test the part and then make a conclusion.



I don't think they every wait. Company says "we're putting in a newly designed part", and they say "okie dokie".

And I guess Ford’s “Soon” applies to when they will get it done. Once again not worried about it but it just seems odd to me. Probably because I have never been involved in a hardware recall with any of the vehicles I have owned.

 

[RickMachE]

And I guess Ford’s “Soon” applies to when they will get it done. Once again not worried about it but it just seems odd to me. Probably because I have never been involved in a hardware recall with any of the vehicles I have owned.

IMO, this will be many, many months. The headlight switch took like a year, the F-150 wiper motor is still be played out.

 

[MarkW.]

The conclusion from the link below:

“In view of the recall action taken by Ford, ODI (Office of Defects Investigations) is closing this investigation,” the agency wrote of its decision. “ODI will continue to monitor reports of this failure in both extended range and standard range models. The Agency reserves the right to take additional action if warranted by future circumstances. To review the ODI reports cited in the Closing Resume ODI Report Identification Number document, go to NHTSA.gov.”

https://fordauthority.com/2023/12/2021-2022-ford-mustang-mach-e-nhtsa-investigation-closed/

 

[MarkW.]

Guys,
Related question please--I have a 2022 extended range and have received a recall notice re: the HVBJB, which said another letter will come when the part is available. The dealer has no idea when the part will come. Meanwhile, my wife is scared to be in it, and I'm a little nervous my own damn self. So we are flying, not driving 300-plus miles to visit our kids. The one time we did drive there, cruising bet 70-80, we had no problems. But the worry traveled with us.

So, in your opinions, how worried should we be? I'm not a hot rodder. OAN, it seems a little crazy to have a $60,000 car you can't trust.

Thanks all!

 

[the golden eel]

Guys,
Related question please--I have a 2022 extended range and have received a recall notice re: the HVBJB, which said another letter will come when the part is available. The dealer has no idea when the part will come. Meanwhile, my wife is scared to be in it, and I'm a little nervous my own damn self. So we are flying, not driving 300-plus miles to visit our kids. The one time we did drive there, cruising bet 70-80, we had no problems. But the worry traveled with us.

So, in your opinions, how worried should we be? I'm not a hot rodder. OAN, it seems a little crazy to have a $60,000 car you can't trust.

Thanks all!

In my opinion you shouldn't be worried at all. There are multiple reports on this website of users who had the failure and continued on with 1,000 mile multi-state trips. If you get this failure it will reduce your power, it won't stop the car dead in its tracks.

 

[AKgrampy]

Guys,
Related question please--I have a 2022 extended range and have received a recall notice re: the HVBJB, which said another letter will come when the part is available. The dealer has no idea when the part will come. Meanwhile, my wife is scared to be in it, and I'm a little nervous my own damn self. So we are flying, not driving 300-plus miles to visit our kids. The one time we did drive there, cruising bet 70-80, we had no problems. But the worry traveled with us.

So, in your opinions, how worried should we be? I'm not a hot rodder. OAN, it seems a little crazy to have a $60,000 car you can't trust.

Thanks all!

I just drive like normal. Nothing has really changed other than Ford is now being forced to change out the HVBJB (and who know when) on vehicles build prior to May 25, 2022 instead of waiting for them to fail over time. You still have the software that in most cases detects potential failure, limits power and give a SVS error.

 

[MarkW.]

Thanks Mike. Appreciate it.

 

[MarkW.]

Thanks Golden eel, it's the stopping the car dead that worries. . . .

 

[Jimrpa]

IMO, this will be many, many months. The headlight switch took like a year, .

Headlight switch? Do tell - I don’t recall receiving a recall for the headlight switch?

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