Not All V3 Superchargers are Ford Accessible

[machdady]

As I was making a quick trip from NY to DC I noticed that the new rest stops (which are quite nice) on the NJ Turnpike have V3 Superchargers, announced back in 2020: https://insideevs.com/news/401141/tesla-installs-64-superchargers-new-jersey-turnpike/

I got excited I can use the turnpike chargers once my adapter arrives, and avoid the notoriously busy and never fully working Wawa Electrify America in Delaware.

Alas, Tesla was serious about not opening all V3’s to other EVs, as I see none of the turnpike chargers are available on FordPass. This is really a shame and I shouldn’t be surprised that Tesla is doing this. Hopefully with its bad quarter they will soon realize they are missing out on a lot of charging revenue.

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[Pioneer74]

Same on the Ohio and Pennsylvania Turnpike. Those were the ones I was hoping for.

 

[JRSNoVa]

I got excited I can use the turnpike chargers once my adapter arrives, and avoid the notoriously busy and never fully working Wawa Electrify America in Delaware.

The EVGo station in Newport is a lot more reliable and only slightly adds travel time.

 

[theotherdave]

What about trying "Charge Your Other EV" in the Tesla app?

 

[zvez]

As I was making a quick trip from NY to DC I noticed that the new rest stops (which are quite nice) on the NJ Turnpike have V3 Superchargers, announced back in 2020: https://insideevs.com/news/401141/tesla-installs-64-superchargers-new-jersey-turnpike/

I got excited I can use the turnpike chargers once my adapter arrives, and avoid the notoriously busy and never fully working Wawa Electrify America in Delaware.

Alas, Tesla was serious about not opening all V3’s to other EVs, as I see none of the turnpike chargers are available on FordPass. This is really a shame and I shouldn’t be surprised that Tesla is doing this. Hopefully with its bad quarter they will soon realize they are missing out on a lot of charging revenue.

so I'm guessing no, but if you tried charging as a tesla subscription paying member would you be allowed to charge there?

 

[bbulkow]

As I was making a quick trip from NY to DC I noticed that the new rest stops (which are quite nice) on the NJ Turnpike have V3 Superchargers, announced back in 2020: https://insideevs.com/news/401141/tesla-installs-64-superchargers-new-jersey-turnpike/

I got excited I can use the turnpike chargers once my adapter arrives, and avoid the notoriously busy and never fully working Wawa Electrify America in Delaware.

Alas, Tesla was serious about not opening all V3’s to other EVs, as I see none of the turnpike chargers are available on FordPass. This is really a shame and I shouldn’t be surprised that Tesla is doing this. Hopefully with its bad quarter they will soon realize they are missing out on a lot of charging revenue.

That is a disappointment.

I had sent some east coast friends a screenshot of plugshare with those, saying now was a time to buy a non-Tesla....

I would hope since those are somehow contractually connected to a state government, the state might be able to exert pressure to make them more accessible. Now I'm going to re-check PlugShare and ABRP, see if they've got a way to understand V3's that are only Tesla.....

 

[NathanZ]

Someone said they will open in future. But I don't believe right now. I'm also very sad that no Tesla V3 open on I95 rest area between DC and NYC. And I can't believe no EA or Evgo in I95 rest area, even it is true.

 

[4sallypat]

Las Vegas - So Calif route needs that huge Baker, CA Superchargers to open up.

They are a mix of V2 and V3 and Tesla has not opened them up for us.

If they upgrade the towers, then I'd be so happy not having to wait for an EA or EVGo fast charger....

 

[AhardFSU]

Folks, Tesla stated this would be the case when they opened up on Feb 29. The stations that are a mix of V2 and V3 will not be opened to non-Teslas for now. I think that mixed stations maybe more complicated seeing as how V2 uses can-bus.

I can't speak to the V3 stations mentioned in this thread, but generally speaking, Tesla must update the software at each of the V3 stations and change out some hardware at these stations.

Tesla is slowing opening up these stations day by day. So what you don't see open today could change in the future.

 

[azerik]

Most likely if they can't open up v2/v3 stations to us it's for their safety (People continuously pluggin into v2's and being upset thus chewing up spots and causing a scene) or that the software deployment for that station is local and has possibly 1 codebase, thus not being able to split the v2/v3 authorization in code roll out. Just my thoughts as I'm also assuming this is all Kube Clusters or the likes. Which would be the cause with 1 auth pod spec. It's probably not a huge amount of work but again why extended resources on the soon to be replaced infrastructure.

 

[machdady]

so I'm guessing no, but if you tried charging as a tesla subscription paying member would you be allowed to charge there?

great question - that would make sense (to open those up) and would almost make me pay a monthly fee to tesla

 

[machdady]

Folks, Tesla stated this would be the case when they opened up on Feb 29. The stations that are a mix of V2 and V3 will not be opened to non-Teslas for now. I think that mixed stations maybe more complicated seeing as how V2 uses can-bus.

I can't speak to the V3 stations mentioned in this thread, but generally speaking, Tesla must update the software at each of the V3 stations and change out some hardware at these stations.

Tesla is slowing opening up these stations day by day. So what you don't see open today could change in the future.

perhaps, but i think this is a strategic business decision (which i think is shortsighted). there are no rest area EV charges as someone else commented between NY and DC. it's a huge miss, being one of the most traveled corridors. I think there are probably multiple things at play, but i hope it changes. the turnpike rest stops are particularly convenient (as is the delaware rest stop, ironically named biden welcome center but only has tesla chargers).

 

[JRSNoVa]

Someone said they will open in future. But I don't believe right now. I'm also very sad that no Tesla V3 open on I95 rest area between DC and NYC. And I can't believe no EA or Evgo in I95 rest area, even it is true.

NJTP is in the process of totally rebuilding some of its rest stops. I would assume that when a rebuilt one opens its chargers will be the newer version that allows non-Tesla charging. But you never know.

 

[machdady]

NJTP is in the process of totally rebuilding some of its rest stops. I would assume that when a rebuilt one opens its chargers will be the newer version that allows non-Tesla charging. But you never know.

They are V3’s. They only support Tesla.

 

[JRSNoVa]

I'm talking about the two furthest south where the buildings were still steel frames last month. Considering the planning time that goes into that kind of project, I can see how it would be possible that the ones that were completed recently might have missed a window to get some key part needed to support no-Teslas. If that's the case, maybe the ones that are still unfished might get them. If not, that would indicate some other issue, like a contractual matter.

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