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I do wonder, when Farley signed the deal with Tesla, Musk had to approve it, no?
Thus, I am wondering if he (Musk), is now backtracking. Hence, making that entire team redundant.

To me, during the conversation/negotiations between Farley and Musk, surely it was discussed that within X period, X MORE volume of Superchargers would be available. Surely, right?
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At the end of the day for MME owners, does it even matter? Sure Ford has adopted NACS. It's not like MME cannot use CCS chargers.
Not great news for Tesla owners for the rest of EV owners... business as usual. ?‍♂
Tesla owners have been able to use CCS chargers for a couple years. CHAdeMo, too... but that's irrelevant at this point.
 

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Starts googling "off-center speedo", voice in head: "Don't google off-center speedo"...
I've been having a terrible day. Thank you for this.
 


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Everyone seems so upset about this news article. Do we know if everything in the article is accurate? News articles are rarely accurate.

Do we know if they cannot grow the SC network without a dedicated team? How do we know those functions were not assigned to others in the company as an additional responsibility? Tesla has to have a dedicated team, or all is lost?

I am very glad I have my adapter, and I am disappointed they are slowing the SC roll out. But the BEV market is not good for car companies. IMO it is a smart business decision to reduce large capital investments until the revenue is there to support it. Tesla has shareholders, and profit matters.

After all the comments condemning the action (and I read them all), nobody knows what will really happen as a result. I think the people who run the company have better information than we do, and assuming they can't operate or grow the SC network after laying off some people isn't reasonable, IMO. There are others still working there, you know.
 

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Everyone seems so upset about this news article. Do we know if everything in the article is accurate? News articles are rarely accurate.

Do we know if they cannot grow the SC network without a dedicated team? How do we know those functions were not assigned to others in the company as an additional responsibility? Tesla has to have a dedicated team, or all is lost?

I am very glad I have my adapter, and I am disappointed they are slowing the SC roll out. But the BEV market is not good for car companies. IMO it is a smart business decision to reduce large capital investments until the revenue is there to support it. Tesla has shareholders, and profit matters.

After all the comments condemning the action (and I read them all), nobody knows what will really happen as a result. I think the people who run the company have better information than we do, and assuming they can't operate or grow the SC network after laying off some people isn't reasonable, IMO. There are others still working there, you know.
I’d be far more likely to buy this argument for basically any other company/CEO.
 

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Musk committed to doubling the Supercharger network by year end to the government, and opening 3,500 Superchargers with Magic Docks also by year end. You can bet they will hold him accountable.
 

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Everyone seems so upset about this news article. Do we know if everything in the article is accurate? News articles are rarely accurate.

Do we know if they cannot grow the SC network without a dedicated team? How do we know those functions were not assigned to others in the company as an additional responsibility? Tesla has to have a dedicated team, or all is lost?

I am very glad I have my adapter, and I am disappointed they are slowing the SC roll out. But the BEV market is not good for car companies. IMO it is a smart business decision to reduce large capital investments until the revenue is there to support it. Tesla has shareholders, and profit matters.

After all the comments condemning the action (and I read them all), nobody knows what will really happen as a result. I think the people who run the company have better information than we do, and assuming they can't operate or grow the SC network after laying off some people isn't reasonable, IMO. There are others still working there, you know.
Ford is likely discussing delaying the switch to nacs a few years or abandoning it all together. Anything could happen if even one company pulls back.
 

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i haven't been able to find any REQUIREMENT for 1000V in the NEVI standards and requirements document. @Mach-Lee do you have a citation or reference to support this?

https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...cle-infrastructure-standards-and-requirements

in the rationale for the rulemaking
" The FHWA agrees with the recommendation to specify required DCFC output voltage and has updated this final rule to include the requirement that each DCFC port support output voltages between 250 volts DC and 920 volts DC. "



and the final rule

§ 680.106 (d) " Power level. (1) DCFC charging ports must support output voltages between 250 volts DC and 920 volts DC. DCFCs located along and designed to serve users of designated AFCs must have a continuous power delivery rating of at least 150 kilowatt (kW) and supply power according to an EV's power delivery request up to 150 kW, simultaneously from each charging port at a charging station. These corridor-serving DCFC charging stations may conduct power sharing so long as each charging port continues to meet an EV's request for power up to 150 kW."
 

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Everyone seems so upset about this news article. Do we know if everything in the article is accurate? News articles are rarely accurate.

Do we know if they cannot grow the SC network without a dedicated team? How do we know those functions were not assigned to others in the company as an additional responsibility? Tesla has to have a dedicated team, or all is lost?

I am very glad I have my adapter, and I am disappointed they are slowing the SC roll out. But the BEV market is not good for car companies. IMO it is a smart business decision to reduce large capital investments until the revenue is there to support it. Tesla has shareholders, and profit matters.

After all the comments condemning the action (and I read them all), nobody knows what will really happen as a result. I think the people who run the company have better information than we do, and assuming they can't operate or grow the SC network after laying off some people isn't reasonable, IMO. There are others still working there, you know.
I am concerned about how Tesla will be able to grow the Supercharger network, and it appears that slowing down translates to at least 4 supercharging sites in NYC got canceled. These had been proposed to help with the surge in EV rideshare vehicles in NYC, as well as slower charging in winter. This doesn't look good, and likely will slow EV adoption.
https://insideevs.com/news/718045/nyc-tesla-supercharger-sites/
 

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If you read Eloon's X post that he simply said SC growth will slow down in order to focus on uptime. Perhaps the layoffs were for the expansion team. Maintenance team still intact?

Quality of quantity it seems.
 

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I am wondering if he (Musk), is now backtracking. Hence, making that entire team redundant
Reports are emerging that the head of the Supercharger group went to bat for her employees seeking a less severe cut than the Oracle of Pretoria was demanding. He fired everyone “To teach people a lesson.”
Then who was there to layoff the SC team?
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I would think this news will cause other EV manufacturers and charging station providers to seriously plan for alternatives, work arounds, and opportunities including bringing Tinucci and her key staff on board to drive a charging business. Interesting times ahead with a chance of turbulence.
Ford, are you listening?
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