BC1.3 for 2021s: How Thoughtful is Ford’s Process on the Backend?

[jwhamlin244]

Why can't they just issue a recall and let the dealers manually update it my vehicle? Or just let me do it myself like the good ol days.

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[SonicBlue]

Why can't they just issue a recall and let the dealers manually update it my vehicle? Or just let me do it myself like the good ol days.

People say you can do it yourself. If you’ve got a windows laptop and a FDRS license and some sort of cable and the courage to not break anything.

They don’t need to issue a recall - they would call it a Customer Satisfaction Program, exactly like they did back in spring 2022 when couldn’t figure out how to push BC1.0 OTA.

 

[Gullwingdmc]

Has anyone with FDRS done all the updates successfully on their 2021?
@benk016 @Mach-Lee

 

[chesteroberto]

Has anyone with FDRS done all the updates successfully on their 2021?
@benk016 @Mach-Lee

Yes, I have done it using FDRS and some specific configuration settings using ForScan. If you review the threads about FDRS, you can find information about how to do it.
BTW, my MME is a 2021 Job 2 Premium RWD with standard battery.

 

[Gullwingdmc]

Yes, I have done it using FDRS and some specific configuration settings using ForScan. If you review the threads about FDRS, you can find information about how to do it.
BTW, my MME is a 2021 Job 2 Premium RWD with standard battery.

That’s awesome. Unfortunate that you need to go into ForScan too though.

 

[SonicBlue]

The trouble is, it’s nearly a $1,000 job unless you’ve already got the hardware. The mongoose adapter alone costs around $500. Laptop, 48hr license.

 

[Snakebitten]

It cost about as much as 1 year subscription to just do it yourself?

(if you want to compare the cost to something)

And then every other update you ever want to have, you no longer are in an OTA line.

 

[timbop]

Well, if you've got a 2021 job 1 (or even an early job 2 at this point) you're already out of warranty. I would suspect that neither you nor Ford want you to have to pay to fix a FUBARed OTA. So in that context, yes I think they are being THOUGHTFUL in making sure that all the kinks are worked out with cars they're going to be able to fix under warranty when the OTAs go south.

In fact, I would not be surprised if they stop sending OTAs at all to out of warranty cars for that reason.

But rest assured that the criticisms are terribly witty in the interim.

 

[rugedraw]

That’s awesome. Unfortunate that you need to go into ForScan too though.

Really? I see it from a different perspective. I would say "Fortunately you can go through FORScan" instead of "unfortunately you have to go through FORScan". It's what has given many of us the avenue to provide for ourselves what Ford cannot.

 

[Gullwingdmc]

Really? I see it from a different perspective. I would say "Fortunately you can go through FORScan" instead of "unfortunately you have to go through FORScan". It's what has given many of us the avenue to provide for ourselves what Ford cannot.

I just meant it’s unfortunate you have to use FDRS and Forscan. It would be better if you just did the updates in FDRS and then everything worked. I’m all for Forscan.

 

[Neil4Real]

And then every other update you ever want to have, you no longer are in an OTA line.

That isn't correct. I've regularly updated my car and have still gotten OTAs. For example, I had all updates in my car, then they did the DSP update or whatever the "priority audio" update was a few months ago and I received that the day it started going out OTA.

It doesn't remove wherever you are in the random OTA queue. It'll still ping your car, see you already have it fully updated, and move on. But if you ever stop doing FDRS updates, you can just wait for OTAs again.

 

[Snakebitten]

That isn't correct. I've regularly updated my car and have still gotten OTAs. For example, I had all updates in my car, then they did the DSP update or whatever the "priority audio" update was a few months ago and I received that the day it started going out OTA.

It doesn't remove wherever you are in the random OTA queue. It'll still ping your car, see you already have it fully updated, and move on. But if you ever stop doing FDRS updates, you can just wait for OTAs again.

OK.
But it's unusual for an update to be delivered to a VIN before it was available in FDRS. Usually it's available in FDRS substantially earlier.

 

[azerik]

Well, if you've got a 2021 job 1

In fact, I would not be surprised if they stop sending OTAs at all to out of warranty cars for that reason.

I have said this for a while. They'll really stop bothering soon, if they havn't already. No one wants to maintain yet another list of growing issues and work unless theres something to get out of it (read: money, only money). Now that the 21's are 'done' they'll probably push 1.3's roll out to most (because I don't think they'll come close to 75% of 22's ever getting 1.3 for one reason or another) and put a plug in that OTA spigot by the end of next year.
Thoughtfully plugging the damn up.
I just hope someone down the road figures out a way to get the files for a FAUX-TA in the future or these cars will become recyclable material before they hit ~6 years old.

 

[phil]

I just hope someone down the road figures out a way to get the files for a FAUX-TA in the future or these cars will become recyclable material before they hit ~6 years old.

Why would that happen? I expect they should run fine for many years with a stable set of current software and zero future updates. You know, like cars have done for more than a century.

 

[Blue highway]

Has anyone with FDRS done all the updates successfully on their 2021?
@benk016 @Mach-Lee

yes, I have.

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