So stable and great traction in on icy roads

[MME Farmer]

The other day it got just warm enough to give us a coating of ice. Since it was Sunday the road crews weren't too ambitious with salt and Monday morning the roads had a nice glaze. I made a 90 mile trip on those roads. I passed 5 4wd drive pickups, 3 semis, countless cars. It is so stable and has such great traction, I know I can't stop much better than anyone else, you have to use common sense. This on continental DW06's with 40k miles which have been remarkable.

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[GreaseMonkey]

Imagine if you had proper snow tires. Like magic.

 

[Monke]

Those pick up trucks may not have 4WD on demand. You need to have at least a Lariat on F150 to get one. The owners may have forgotten to use 4WD and put sand bags in the bed. I use my non Lariat truck on 2WD most of the time to save on gas.

 

[tuminatr]

More of a testament to the car than the tires. DWS06+ are a good all season but today you can get an all season that offers the three peak mountain snowflake ( winter tire rating) that rating equates to noticeably better traction in the snow and ice.

Check out tires like Michelin Cross climate, Goodyear weather ready 2, Toyo Celsius, Vredestein Quateac Pro+, Pirelli Weatheractive

 

[MME Farmer]

More of a testament to the car than the tires. DWS06+ are a good all season but today you can get an all season that offers the three peak mountain snowflake ( winter tire rating) that rating equates to noticeably better traction in the snow and ice.

Check out tires like Michelin Cross climate, Goodyear weather ready 2, Toyo Celsius, Vredestein Quateac Pro+, Pirelli Weatheractive

These tires are going to run awhile yet, but I plan to do some looking when the time comes. I'm very satisfied with the traction, but have given up some range. I suppose it's one or the other.

Imagine if you had proper snow tires. Like magic.

With traction like this I don't know why anyone would mess with winter or snow tires.

 

[MME Farmer]

More of a testament to the car than the tires. DWS06+ are a good all season but today you can get an all season that offers the three peak mountain snowflake ( winter tire rating) that rating equates to noticeably better traction in the snow and ice.

Check out tires like Michelin Cross climate, Goodyear weather ready 2, Toyo Celsius, Vredestein Quateac Pro+, Pirelli Weatheractive

I agree that it is the car for the most part. I'm sure the low center of gravity, the equally distributed weight, and the excellent control of acceleration and braking give it many advantages over an ICE vehicle.

 

[4wheeldog]

I replaced a Subaru Outback with the MME. the Outback was the best snow/ice car I ever had. The MME is on similar Michelin tires (Though the Outback’s weren’t EV). The MME is at least as good. I am impressed.

 

[MME Farmer]

Those pick up trucks may not have 4WD on demand. You need to have at least a Lariat on F150 to get one. The owners may have forgotten to use 4WD and put sand bags in the bed. I use my non Lariat truck on 2WD most of the time to save on gas.

Oh I can assure you there were no 2WD pickups on the road that day and they were definitely in 4WD, that's about all we have in this country.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

With traction like this I don't know why anyone would mess with winter or snow tires.

Because to your earlier point, with a/s, you can go better but not stop better. With winters, you can corner, stop, and go way better. There is just no comparison.

 

[Monke]

Oh I can assure you there were no 2WD pickups on the road that day and they were definitely in 4WD, that's about all we have in this country.

This is interesting. In the USA, I did not have any problems driving in snow with either FWD or 4WD. I'm talking about MI, Syracuse and Alaska in the USA. People might be driving too fast for the conditions in your country.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

This is interesting. In the USA, I did not have any problems driving in snow with either FWD or 4WD. I'm talking about MI, Syracuse and Alaska in the USA. People might be driving too fast for the conditions in your country.

He’s from Minnesota, the 11th Canadian province ?

 

[4wheeldog]

This is interesting. In the USA, I did not have any problems driving in snow with either FWD or 4WD. I'm talking about MI, Syracuse and Alaska in the USA. People might be driving too fast for the conditions in your country.

You put me to mind of the guy from Minnesota that, after chastising a room full of folks about how he could drive his FWD mini van anywhere a 4x4 could go, got stuck getting the mail at the gang boxes. I pulled him out with my ancient 4Runner.

 

[tuminatr]

These tires are going to run awhile yet, but I plan to do some looking when the time comes. I'm very satisfied with the traction, but have given up some range. I suppose it's one or the other.

With traction like this I don't know why anyone would mess with winter or snow tires.

Thanks, kinda figured that you would not replace tires unless they are worn out. I posted the info so others that read the thread would know the difference. Also having driven on an all season and and all weather ( all season with 3PMSF) know that you would be able to tell the difference it's significant.

With my all seasons I turned off one petal drive when we got snow with my new tires I don't turn it off.

 

[MME Farmer]

He’s from Minnesota, the 11th Canadian province ?

Careful now!

 

[MME Farmer]

Because to your earlier point, with a/s, you can go better but not stop better. With winters, you can corner, stop, and go way better. There is just no comparison.

I can believe you, I know if I'd have had the OEM Pirelli's that came with the car, I'd have been one of the cars in the ditch or at least getting passed regularly.

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