Does anyone park their Mach E in their garage?

[sparkout]

Do you have any (verifiable) examples of an EV catching fire in a garage when charging?

An installation by anyone without a license poses a greater risk of fire. Proper wire sizing, whether to use copper or aluminum wire, making connections properly is more important than you can imagine. I bet any fires reported were not started by the car itself but by the installer. No, I am not an electrician; I have some knowledge of it.

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[Mach1E]

Do you have any (verifiable) examples of an EV catching fire in a garage when charging?

It’s not common, but can be a HUGE problem when it happens.

Like this one that damaged 900 cars and sent 23 people to the hospital!
https://www.wired.com/story/the-auto-industry-finally-has-a-plan-to-stop-electric-vehicle-fires/

 

[Rpellicciotti]

I’m late to this thread but our 23 Premium stays in the garage every night. Level 2 charger professionally installed at the time we bought the car. Like others have said, I wouldn’t have bought it if I thought it would burn my house down. I also believe that there are a lot of problems with poor charger installations.

 

[Guss]

It’s not common, but can be a HUGE problem when it happens.

Like this one that damaged 900 cars and sent 23 people to the hospital!
https://www.wired.com/story/the-auto-industry-finally-has-a-plan-to-stop-electric-vehicle-fires/

That was a good article. Thank You. This is the part I like: "Data from the National Transportation Safety Board, the US’s independent federal investigation agency, shows that the risks of electric vehicle battery fires are low. In fact, very low. An analysis of that data by one insurance company suggested that more than 1,500 gas cars catch on fire per 100,000 sales, compared to just 25 electric vehicles."

 

[Mach1E]

That was a good article. Thank You. This is the part I like: "Data from the National Transportation Safety Board, the US’s independent federal investigation agency, shows that the risks of electric vehicle battery fires are low. In fact, very low. An analysis of that data by one insurance company suggested that more than 1,500 gas cars catch on fire per 100,000 sales, compared to just 25 electric vehicles."

That data from “one insurance company” was a complete fabrication and totally debunked.

Even common sense would tell you that the 1500 number isn’t possible.

You would notice if thousands of car fires were happening in your town each year.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40163966/cars-catching-fire-new-york-times-real-statistics/

There isn’t a source in the US that tracks car fires nor a source that tracks the REASON for the car fires.

But like I said, it’s not common, but does happen and is a big deal when it does.

 

[Guss]

That data from “one insurance company” was a complete fabrication and totally debunked.

Even common sense would tell you that the 1500 number isn’t possible.

You would notice if thousands of car fires were happening in your town each year.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40163966/cars-catching-fire-new-york-times-real-statistics/

There isn’t a source in the US that tracks car fires nor a source that tracks the REASON for the car fires.

But like I said, it’s not common, but does happen and is a big deal when it does.

Didn't you use this article to back up YOUR position?

 

[AtomicInternet]

I park a lot of things in my garage.

I'm also lucky my breaker panel is right next to where I park my car.
Installing a 240v isn't difficult, especially if you have a setup like mine. Cost me under $100 total for everything, mostly because I only needed a foot of cable. You can find a TON of Youtube videos that show you how, including mine: REVIEW: Duracell Power Center - Charge 1 80A EV Charger

 

[Maquis]

I park a lot of things in my garage.

I'm also lucky my breaker panel is right next to where I park my car.
Installing a 240v isn't difficult, especially if you have a setup like mine. Cost me under $100 total for everything, mostly because I only needed a foot of cable. You can find a TON of Youtube videos that show you how, including mine: REVIEW: Duracell Power Center - Charge 1 80A EV Charger

Couldn’t find the right sized cover plate? Sorry, couldn’t resist!

 

[Teslaeata]

That was a good article. Thank You. This is the part I like: "Data from the National Transportation Safety Board, the US’s independent federal investigation agency, shows that the risks of electric vehicle battery fires are low. In fact, very low. An analysis of that data by one insurance company suggested that more than 1,500 gas cars catch on fire per 100,000 sales, compared to just 25 electric vehicles."

There’s no wonder!

So many systems remain “live” on ICE cars that don’t fully “go to sleep” there are so many ICE vehicles which suffer from fires where exposed wiring & components at places like cooling fan modules etc suffer resistance heating in the modules or wiring.

Thanks very much but I’ll take my chances with Stangy parked in garage every night charging to 100% 3 times a week on a 3-phase 22kW charge point installed by a certified electrician.

 

[Jeffvisor]

I have a Job 1 2021 Premium and parked mine in the garage since the day I bought it almost 4 years no issues. I installed the charger toward the front of the garage in case I want to charge outside garage. When I bought the car I bought a fire smoke alarm for the garage as well just in case, but it never went off. I had the charger plug installed by a professional and use a WallBox Pulsar Plus charger which I highly recommend.

 

[Mach1E]

Didn't you use this article to back up YOUR position?

Yes, that fires are rare and to point out any “verifiable evidence of a vehicle catching fire while charging,” which you asked for.

So now that you got your evidence, would you like to address that or get distracted by something entirely different that is known to be false?

 

[Mach1E]

There’s no wonder!

So many systems remain “live” on ICE cars that don’t fully “go to sleep” there are so many ICE vehicles which suffer from fires where exposed wiring & components at places like cooling fan modules etc suffer resistance heating in the modules or wiring.

Thanks very much but I’ll take my chances with Stangy parked in garage every night charging to 100% 3 times a week on a 3-phase 22kW charge point installed by a certified electrician.

Except that those numbers aren’t true, so don’t go making any decisions based on made up numbers. Fact check- https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40163966/cars-catching-fire-new-york-times-real-statistics/

No matter the real numbers…… it’s rare either way.

Use a licensed electrician to install and you should be fine as long as your house doesn’t get flooded with saltwater (like mine did last year during a hurricane).

 

[Guss]

Yes, that fires are rare and to point out any “verifiable evidence of a vehicle catching fire while charging,” which you asked for.

So now that you got your evidence, would you like to address that or get distracted by something entirely different that is known to be false?

I am blocking you. Go harrass someone else.

 

[Blue highway]

That data from “one insurance company” was a complete fabrication and totally debunked.

Even common sense would tell you that the 1500 number isn’t possible.

You would notice if thousands of car fires were happening in your town each year.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40163966/cars-catching-fire-new-york-times-real-statistics/

There isn’t a source in the US that tracks car fires nor a source that tracks the REASON for the car fires.

But like I said, it’s not common, but does happen and is a big deal when it does.

Google knows everything...AI Overview
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In the United States, there are an estimated 119,681 reported vehicle fires involving automobiles or passenger vehicles annually, with vehicle fires accounting for approximately 16% of total reported fire incidents.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Frequency:
  An average of 119,681 reported vehicle fires involving automobiles or passenger vehicles occurred annually from 2018–2022.
  
  
• Impact:
  These fires caused an average of 579 civilian deaths, 1,336 civilian injuries, and $2.2 billion in direct property damage.
  
  
• Highway Vehicle Fires:
  The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) reported 195,927 highway vehicle fires per year from 2018–2022.
  
  
• Common Causes:
  Vehicle fires can be caused by various factors, including ignition of flammable liquids, electrical malfunctions, minor collisions, overheated engines, hot exhausts, and more.
  
  
• Data Source:
  The data is collected by the National Fire Incident Reporting System and analyzed by the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA).
  
  
• Decline in Car Fires:
  The number of car fires has declined significantly since the 1980s.
  
  
• Electric Vehicle Fires:
  While electric vehicle fires are less common than those involving gasoline vehicles, they can pose unique challenges for first responders.
  
  
• Insurance Coverage:
  Car insurance typically covers fire damage.

 

[Mach1E]

Google knows everything...AI Overview
Learn more

In the United States, there are an estimated 119,681 reported vehicle fires involving automobiles or passenger vehicles annually, with vehicle fires accounting for approximately 16% of total reported fire incidents.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Frequency:
  An average of 119,681 reported vehicle fires involving automobiles or passenger vehicles occurred annually from 2018–2022.
  
  
• Impact:
  These fires caused an average of 579 civilian deaths, 1,336 civilian injuries, and $2.2 billion in direct property damage.
  
  
• Highway Vehicle Fires:
  The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) reported 195,927 highway vehicle fires per year from 2018–2022.
  
  
• Common Causes:
  Vehicle fires can be caused by various factors, including ignition of flammable liquids, electrical malfunctions, minor collisions, overheated engines, hot exhausts, and more.
  
  
• Data Source:
  The data is collected by the National Fire Incident Reporting System and analyzed by the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA).
  
  
• Decline in Car Fires:
  The number of car fires has declined significantly since the 1980s.
  
  
• Electric Vehicle Fires:
  While electric vehicle fires are less common than those involving gasoline vehicles, they can pose unique challenges for first responders.
  
  
• Insurance Coverage:
  Car insurance typically covers fire damage.

I look forward to the day we can trust AI search results.

All they do is just aggregate internet data without any fact checking or sourcing.

Just look at your numbers and then look at the numbers I got when searching the same thing:

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AI Overview
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In the United States, fire departments responded to an estimated annual average of 215,096 vehicle fires between 2018 and 2022.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Total Vehicle Fires:
  US fire departments responded to an estimated annual average of 215,096 vehicle fires from 2018–2022.
  
• Passenger Vehicle Fires:
  There was an estimated annual average of 119,681 reported vehicle fires involving an automobile or passenger vehicle from 2018–2022. “
  
  
  
  But yes, even though it’s just an estimate from the fire departments, the 40,000 or so per year is nowhere near the millions it would be if the numbers for InsuranceEZ were remotely accurate.
  
  
  
  

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