Goodbye It's Been a Fun Ride

[IMDIDOC]

I'm trading in my FE and heading for an old man (which I am) Cadillac; the Lyriq EV. Thanks to all for your advice as we navigated the unknown waters of an early Ford EV. Thanks to Ford for jumping in when things really got bad. My wife has planned an east coast trip and I think I will like the ride better.

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[watchdoc]

We tried the Lyriq and Optiq and found the ride quality to be excellent but the seats weren't as comfy to us.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

I think the front end is beautiful but can’t get past the c pillar and lack of frunk. It’s a big no for us.

 

[watchdoc]

I think the front end is beautiful but can’t get past the c pillar and lack of frunk. It’s a big no for us.

I personally think the frunk is a poorly executed gimick. double pop just to open it and have to slam it every time. Now the 25 frunk is only big enough for smelly take out (but not a pizza box). The drain is a nice touch and having the release on the remote for 25 is a step in the right direction but still seems like a gimick. That being said, my wife loves it.

 

[67 Stang Convertible]

I think Ford HAS to address their too firm suspension eventually.....Tesla did for their revamped Model Y (2025). Cadillac has their typical Cushy ride. Hyundai / Kia feels "normal" in my opinion.

I can't speak for the GTPE with the magna ride as I've never experienced it.......but what I've gleaned from 4 years on the Forum is it is "better" but not Fantastic.....

Just like the OP, as many of us who could afford this car in the early years, and I'm painting with a broad brush here, are probably in our 50's and 60's. So, I think you will see the older ones of us migrating to a ride with a smoother suspension on our 2nd or 3rd EV. I absolutely love my 2021 MME but as I'm now closer to 60 than 50, I too have thought about the Lyriq. My plan is to keep the MME for another few years, so Maybe the Ford engineers will have time to give me a cushier ride!

What keeps me from running to the Lyriq now?:
1. I'm a Frunk Guy....come on Cadillac, there is a lot of space there redesign it!!!
2. No Apple Car Play?!?! Give the customers what they want!!!!
3. No Lane Centering without Cruise control (just like the Mach E)......For those of you who have not driven a Hyundai/Kia with lane Centering around town without Cruise control......It's pretty darn flawless.......Now I understand the 2025 Cadillac Vistiq has it, does the Lyriq? And is it as good as Hyundai/Kia? **Why has Hyundai/Kia not given us hands free on the Highway though???

ok, my rant is over; everyone have a great day!!!

 

[garyd9]

3.For those of you who have not driven a Hyundai/Kia with lane Centering around town without Cruise control......It's pretty darn flawless.......Now I understand the 2025 Cadillac Vistiq has it, does the Lyriq? And is it as good as Hyundai/Kia? **Why has Hyundai/Kia not given us hands free on the Highway though???

I really disagree with this. I just spent 3 weeks driving a (rental) 2024 Hyundai Tuscon and I found their lane keeping to be outright dangerous. I'd suddenly find myself veering out of my lane and glance down to see the little green steering wheel icon turned white. No beeps or audible warnings. Just a tiny icon on the console changing color.

The really dangerous part was that the car would actually pull itself out of the lane before disengaging the lane keeping thing. I would have to fight with the steering wheel to stay in my lane. I learned very quickly to keep that turned off.

 

[AZBill]

I personally think the frunk is a poorly executed gimick. double pop just to open it and have to slam it every time. Now the 25 frunk is only big enough for smelly take out (but not a pizza box). The drain is a nice touch and having the release on the remote for 25 is a step in the right direction but still seems like a gimick. That being said, my wife loves it.

I agree, the Mach E frunk is a terrible design and we hardly ever use ours. For a frunk to be useful it has to be big and powered, like my R1T and Hummer. I use those frunks all the time. My wife drives our Mach E, and she has never used the frunk, not even once. Last time I opened the frunk, I found the struts were shot and will not hold it open.

 

[RickMachE]

We use our Lightning frunk often, and the Mach-E trunk never. It has stuff in it for trips and such (blanket, ponchos, fire extinguisher, shovel, charging adapters, collapsible orange cones) which take up most of the space. I also have the divider from my 2021 in it.

Popping it manually and then closing it manually vs. the Lightning is the big difference after space.

As we consider our next vehicle, a frunk is important for the storage of those items, and them not taking space (or rolling around) in the back.

 

[Socalsp3]

I think Ford HAS to address their too firm suspension eventually.....Tesla did for their revamped Model Y (2025). Cadillac has their typical Cushy ride. Hyundai / Kia feels "normal" in my opinion.

I can't speak for the GTPE with the magna ride as I've never experienced it.......but what I've gleaned from 4 years on the Forum is it is "better" but not Fantastic.....

Just like the OP, as many of us who could afford this car in the early years, and I'm painting with a broad brush here, are probably in our 50's and 60's. So, I think you will see the older ones of us migrating to a ride with a smoother suspension on our 2nd or 3rd EV. I absolutely love my 2021 MME but as I'm now closer to 60 than 50, I too have thought about the Lyriq. My plan is to keep the MME for another few years, so Maybe the Ford engineers will have time to give me a cushier ride!

What keeps me from running to the Lyriq now?:
1. I'm a Frunk Guy....come on Cadillac, there is a lot of space there redesign it!!!
2. No Apple Car Play?!?! Give the customers what they want!!!!
3. No Lane Centering without Cruise control (just like the Mach E)......For those of you who have not driven a Hyundai/Kia with lane Centering around town without Cruise control......It's pretty darn flawless.......Now I understand the 2025 Cadillac Vistiq has it, does the Lyriq? And is it as good as Hyundai/Kia? **Why has Hyundai/Kia not given us hands free on the Highway though???

ok, my rant is over; everyone have a great day!!!

yeah im addicted to my ioniq 5 lane centering. i wouldnt get another car without it.

 

[Doobster6]

I agree, the Mach E frunk is a terrible design and we hardly ever use ours. For a frunk to be useful it has to be big and powered, like my R1T and Hummer. I use those frunks all the time. My wife drives our Mach E, and she has never used the frunk, not even once. Last time I opened the frunk, I found the struts were shot and will not hold it open.

I used the frunk on my 2024 once, when I first got the car. But after driving non-frunk ICE cars for 55 years, it simply doesn’t enter my consciousness. Still, I know it’s there, and that I could use it whenever I choose to, and so I don’t like that it has shrunk to near uselessness in the 2025 model.

As I understand it, back when he had a more altruistic bent, Musk offered virtually all of his technology to other automakers for free, both so that he could help advance the EV as a counter-measure to climate change, and also to broaden EV acceptance, which he then could capitalize on given his (then) lead in the industry. So Ford could have used the octo-valve concept to simplify their own heat-pump design and perhaps not have to steal so much volume from the frunk. At the same time, they would have improved the reliability of future MMEs by having adopted a proven system design with fewer parts to fail. Evidently ego and hubris drove their engineers to adopt the dreaded NIH attitude.

 

[mburtsvt]

I personally think the frunk is a poorly executed gimick. double pop just to open it and have to slam it every time. Now the 25 frunk is only big enough for smelly take out (but not a pizza box). The drain is a nice touch and having the release on the remote for 25 is a step in the right direction but still seems like a gimick. That being said, my wife loves it.

Not really a gimmick. Think about it. All front hoods are double click. On most cars the first pull inside the car releases the hood latch. When you get out of the car and try to open the hood - you can’t. The secondary latch, (generally under he front hood), releases the hood latch completely.

In addition the second latch is a safety feature. Can’t open the hood while the car is in motion. From a Ford perspective the hood latch release on our Mach E’s can’t be accessed when the drivers door is shut.

Hitting the hood release on a Mach E twice beets trying to find the reals under the hood any day.

 

[RKinWA]

I personally think the frunk is a poorly executed gimick. double pop just to open it and have to slam it every time. Now the 25 frunk is only big enough for smelly take out (but not a pizza box). The drain is a nice touch and having the release on the remote for 25 is a step in the right direction but still seems like a gimick. That being said, my wife loves it.

Mine is filled with cleaning supplies, water, and a jump box in case I need to help a stranded person (see them in store parking lots all the time). It's all stuff that would be taking up room in my back if I didn't have a frunk. That being said, I recently checked out the 2025 frunk and you're right, it's useless and I would never upgrade to it.

 

[watchdoc]

I think Ford HAS to address their too firm suspension eventually.....Tesla did for their revamped Model Y (2025). Cadillac has their typical Cushy ride. Hyundai / Kia feels "normal" in my opinion.

The 25 Mach E is defintely a softer suspension. Still not a cushy as a caddy but better than it was.

 

[tusc]

If you're considering the Lyriz, might I suggest looking at the ZDX? I just picked one up for my wife. It shares the same GM skateboard platform but a different style that might apply to a different group.

I just picked up my 25 Mach-e, and while the ride is good, the ZDX absorbs bumps a bit better, and that's without the air suspension in the type-s.

The ZDX includes more standard features with the base A-spec trim compared to the Lyriq and there were some amazing lease deals. https://www.acura.com/suvs/zdx/compare/cadillac-lyriq

 

[Benewil]

My frunk perfectly fits my car cover. That's all I use it for.

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