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If the bumper wires are for jump starting, then in theory it should behave identical to how any other ICE vehicle functions when being jump started. But more importantly, the jump start should provide powered locks control and once inside the car, the frunk should be able to be opened by the manual latch release on the driver's side(?).
If the bumper wires were fro jumping the 12V they would be a safety hazard. They are only for popping the frunk release and only work if the 12V battery is gonzo dead. ??
 

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If the bumper wires were fro jumping the 12V they would be a safety hazard. They are only for popping the frunk release and only work if the 12V battery is gonzo dead. ??
WTF?

Ford Mustang Mach-E Recall #25S65 - 12V battery discharge may cause door lock-out (Vehicle Entrapment Allegations). Stop Sales issued by Ford {filename}
 

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I've considered installing a connector with some 12 awg wiring and a fuse/diode up by the battery as backup, but I really haven't had any issues... To me this fearmongering and FUD for now.

Ford Mustang Mach-E Recall #25S65 - 12V battery discharge may cause door lock-out (Vehicle Entrapment Allegations). Stop Sales issued by Ford 71xEd26d3OL._SL1500_
 

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Think about it: Live 12V leads out in front of the front bumper... Not a safe thing if there is a front end impact. Since they are not live and only function to actuate the frunk release, there's no safety issue. ?‍♂?
 


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Think about it: Live 12V leads out in front of the front bumper... Not a safe thing if there is a front end impact. Since they are not live and only function to actuate the frunk release, there's no safety issue. ?‍♂?
Why drag Gonzo into this?
 

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This showed up on my owner dashboard. Guess getting stuck outside your car isn't urgent, has to wait for Q3

Issue Date
2025-06-13
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25S65/AWAITING
Description
On your vehicle, in the event of unexpected 12V battery discharge, the front door electronic latches retain their last lockunlock status. If the driver or front passenger exit the front doors using the mechanical inside release handles, the doors may remain locked when they are closed. This may result in an unexpected lock-out condition for the driver and front passenger without the ability to immediately re-enter the vehicle.
Safety Risk
An occupant who remains inside a locked vehicle and unable to use an inside door release handle may be unable to be rapidly retrieved by a passenger who has exited the vehicle. This could result in a serious injury, especially in hot weather.
Remedy
Ford Motor Company is working to provide software for this repair. However, software is currently not available. When the software remedy becomes available, Ford Motor Company will notify you via mail to schedule a service appointment with your dealer for repairs to be completed free of charge. The remedy is anticipated to be available in Q3 of 2025.
Is there a trunk release cable?
 

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The PDF is a free download. As of 2024 Job2, cars came with a physical hard copy as well. I can't speak to 2025s, but my 2024 GT came with a paper manual. I've seen reports of some people not receiving their hard copies for 2024 and earlier cars. I would bet you it's just because their dealers did not give the manuals to them. I would guess that would apply top 2025s but I don't own a 2025 so I can't say that they come with a paper manual. The PDF is still a free download. ??
Neither my 23 F-150 did or my 23 Mach E. I ordered the actual manual bundle and portfolio for my F-150 from the publisher. I need a hard copy cause I am that old and cranky?

But my Mach E I didn't bother. I found the PDF and I will refer to that when not in the car. Still would like to have a hard copy though. If anything at least it's convenient to keep all the other documentation together.
 

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Is there a trunk release cable?
There is no trunk release cable. There is a mechanical frunk release cable that has its handle located in the left side kick panel, in the footwell. This makes the frunk release impossible to access if the 12V battery is dead and you are outside of the car (as the left front door must be open in order to access or use the handle). ??
 

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Neither my 23 F-150 did or my 23 Mach E. I ordered the actual manual bundle and portfolio for my F-150 from the publisher. I need a hard copy cause I am that old and cranky?

But my Mach E I didn't bother. I found the PDF and I will refer to that when not in the car. Still would like to have a hard copy though. If anything at least it's convenient to keep all the other documentation together.
Your dealer(s) most likely did not bother to get your manuals out of stock. Both my 2021 and 2024 came with a shrink-wrapped book. The dealers keep the books separate from the cars since the card with the factory door code is also wrapped with the manual. If you got the card with the door code, it was removed from the shrink-wrapped package and the rest of the package was not given to you. There are posts on this forum from people who were not given their manuals at the time of sale who went back weeks later and had their dealers cough up their manuals. This is a dealer problem. ??
 

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Has anyone gotten an update on this yet? My car is still sitting at the dealer, waiting for the fix. They ended up giving me a loaner, but this is annoying. The sales manager told me that he heard the latest was the week of July 4, but no clue if that has any basis in reality.
 

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Your dealer(s) most likely did not bother to get your manuals out of stock. Both my 2021 and 2024 came with a shrink-wrapped book. The dealers keep the books separate from the cars since the card with the factory door code is also wrapped with the manual. If you got the card with the door code, it was removed from the shrink-wrapped package and the rest of the package was not given to you. There are posts on this forum from people who were not given their manuals at the time of sale who went back weeks later and had their dealers cough up their manuals. This is a dealer problem. ??
Unless I misinterpreted this

https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...copy of your Owner's,model years 1944 to 2006.

If you have a Sync 4 system your manual is on your Sync and they don't give you a hard copy anymore.

As far as door code that too is in Sync. No card anymore. That part I agree with since that card is usually the first thing you lose.
 

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Worst part of a dead battery is not being locked out, which is better than being locked in! Only problem is that you can't get to the manual frunk release. So what? Use whatever you intend to jump the battery with to use the 12 volt frunk release.
Worst part is having to disassemble most of the inside of the frunk just to get at the battery to jump it.
 

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Worst part is having to disassemble most of the inside of the frunk just to get at the battery to jump it.
Two clipped on panels is hardly dissembling most the frunk. People will spend exponentially more of their life energy worrying about the time they most likely never have to remove those panels than the minute it takes to do so if you actually ever need to.
 

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That's exactly what I was thinking
Worst part of a dead battery is not being locked out, which is better than being locked in! Only problem is that you can't get to the manual frunk release. So what? Use whatever you intend to jump the battery with to use the 12 volt frunk release.
Worst part is having to disassemble most of the inside of the frunk just to get at the battery to jump it.
That's exactly what I was thinking when the dealer was showing me the procedure. I said to myself "You have got to be freaking kidding me!".
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