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Agreed, when you look at all the other cars that made Top Safety Pick Plus, it's disappointing to see a brand new car like the Mach missing out on the top rating.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/top-safety-picks
There are only TWO American cars on that list: the Ford Explorer and some Cadillac SUV? Seriously? What’s going on here?
 

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A $20,000 Mazda 3 and other inexpensive cars were able to earn the Top Safety Pick Plus by not putting in Marginal headlights. Headlights don't have to be expensive to be rated more than Marginal.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/top-safety-picks
You need to read the details of each test set. The Mazda didn't get all green in the crash testing, but the Mach E did, so it's strange the Mazda got the + ratings. That's why I would only view the detail tests, Mach E for green on all crash tests, only the reflector lights scored low, but you can get the projector lights on the other models.
 

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I’m disappointed that the Select has lower grade lights than the Premium. I think I read every stat sheet at Ford and on the web at the time I ordered and never did I see that listed as a difference. I might have more strongly considered the Premium had I known that.
It was listed in the technical specifications sheet that came out last June under the exterior features line item, but very easy to miss.

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You need to read the details of each test set. The Mazda didn't get all green in the crash testing, but the Mach E did, so it's strange the Mazda got the + ratings. That's why I would only view the detail tests, Mach E for green on all crash tests, only the reflector lights scored low, but you can get the projector lights on the other models.
People were saying good headlights were too expensive. The $20K Mazda 3 shows how you can still earn the best rating by not getting a marginal rating in any category.
 

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Thanks, I guess I just focused on the LED part. Oh well, they have to be better than the halogen lights on my Mariner.
 

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There are only TWO American cars on that list: the Ford Explorer and some Cadillac SUV? Seriously? What’s going on here?
For a long time American Cars have had horrible headlights because they are just not something Americans shop for. I think that is starting to change a little bit over the past couple years.
 

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For a long time American Cars have had horrible headlights because they are just not something Americans shop for. I think that is starting to change a little bit over the past couple years.
I used to have a 2004 Jaguar X-TYPE with projection Xenon (?) headlamps that steered with the steering. They were fantastic on bending roads. I’ve no idea why Ford never picked up that idea.
 

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Based on the article with 40% reduction, I am hoping insurance companies lower insurance rates vs. gas cars. Also, the article implies that the heavier MME might be safer than the lighter Model Y, but alas, Tesla hasn't supported the IIHS in getting the model Y tested.

https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/with-more-electric-vehicles-comes-more-proof-of-safety

The updated data show that rates of injury claims related to the drivers and passengers of electric vehicles were more than 40 percent lower than for identical conventional models over 2011-19. This result is similar to an earlier HLDI study of hybrid vehicles, and one likely explanation is that the large batteries used in both types of vehicles make them substantially heavier than their conventional counterparts. Occupants of heavier vehicles are exposed to lower forces in multivehicle crashes.

The XC40 Recharge has a curb weight of 4,787 pounds, compared with 3,811 pounds for the conventional model. There is no conventional version of the Mach-E, but its curb weight of 4,516 pounds is also higher than many conventional midsize SUVs.
Seems like repairs for cars are getting costlier though. The more technology, sensors, etc they put in, even simple fender benders are expensive. I wonder if that offsets.
 

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Were any of these tests conducted with the glass roof? I am wondering how much glass I am going to have raining down on my head? It looked to me like the roof crush test was the steel roof available only on the select model.
 

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