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Interesting video where C&D tested 11 EVs on a 1000 mile race

Seems like a flawed premise with the way fast charging capacity was handled. The grouping of cars at chargers really confounded the results, and doesn't represent an accurate depiction of real world charger availability either.
 

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Seems like a flawed premise with the way fast charging capacity was handled. The grouping of cars at chargers really confounded the results, and doesn't represent an accurate depiction of real world charger availability either.
I have never had to wait for a plug at a fast charger station yet.
 

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Waiting for a charger must be weird. Like when someone leaves, does everyone just rush for the now open spot? Is there some kind of unwritten rule about who goes next?

These charging stations are in parking spots, so it isn't like you're gonna park right in front of it as a means to "Dibs" it.
 

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Waiting for a charger must be weird. Like when someone leaves, does everyone just rush for the now open spot? Is there some kind of unwritten rule about who goes next?

These charging stations are in parking spots, so it isn't like you're gonna park right in front of it as a means to "Dibs" it.
The pics I've seen of SuperChargers had cars waiting in a line.
 

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Maybe for the next test they can stagger the starts so that they don’t bunch the vehicles up at charging stations.
 

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I guess they were trying to act like consumers who've done no research, but it feels like they might have been better off running a shorter "get to know me" trip before doing the "real" trip. I guess you also have to be a subscriber to read the details of how each car fared?

One thing is for sure - cars like the leaf need to go away because they are really outclassed at this point.
 

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Waiting for a charger must be weird. Like when someone leaves, does everyone just rush for the now open spot? Is there some kind of unwritten rule about who goes next?

These charging stations are in parking spots, so it isn't like you're gonna park right in front of it as a means to "Dibs" it.
Maybe Tesla owners handle it like we used to do waiting for the pool table at the bar. Put your quarter down on the charger to keep track of who is next.
 

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I guess they were trying to act like consumers who've done no research, but it feels like they might have been better off running a shorter "get to know me" trip before doing the "real" trip. I guess you also have to be a subscriber to read the details of how each car fared?

One thing is for sure - cars like the leaf need to go away because they are really outclassed at this point.
I don't know about that. I think the Leaf still has a place in the market. In town delivery or other fleet usage seems like an ideal place for it. Some municipalities in the Phoenix metro run them. The price has fallen pretty drastically. Obviously it is not in the same class as the other 10 vehicles in the test.
 

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I don't know about that. I think the Leaf still has a place in the market. In town delivery or other fleet usage seems like an ideal place for it. Some municipalities in the Phoenix metro run them. The price has fallen pretty drastically. Obviously it is not in the same class as the other 10 vehicles in the test.
The full article is available online and they go through the 11 vehicles (in no particular order). And then at the end go through the list of all other available EVs and explain why they weren't included... Mainly because manufacturers wouldn't supply a vehicle for testing claiming whatever vehicle they wanted to include wasn't ready for a long term (3 week) test. The Teslas included were rented from people who owned them because Tesla doesn't provide test vehicles to anyone. All the others were provided by the manufacturer.
 

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I don't know about that. I think the Leaf still has a place in the market. In town delivery or other fleet usage seems like an ideal place for it. Some municipalities in the Phoenix metro run them. The price has fallen pretty drastically. Obviously it is not in the same class as the other 10 vehicles in the test.
Right, but cars like the leaf reinforce the stereotype that BEV's have poor range, are slow to recharge, and the batteries die within a few years. The current generation BEVs are SO much better, and more importantly can break that image.
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