Bluecruise Version Poll (List per Fords table) V2

[ChasingCoral]

Well as far as I'm aware...the EA cars that did get the 1.4 version back in December are now going to get 'updated' when those IPMA and PSCM files are pushed down to the '21 models. Is that not a correct statement? So would they then not also be on the BC 1.3 revision that eventually everybody will be on?

Now I get it. Your speculation makes you think the EA cars that got 1.4 are likely to be switched to 1.3 when those two modules are updated, but you have no information that those changes actually equal a change from 1.4 to 1.3. Despite that, you said with total certainty that vehicles already had been switched to 1.3. In reality, two people have already said they are still on 1.4.

tl;dr: You were guessing and were wrong.

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[HuntingPudel]

BC? What’s that? ??

 

[leehinde]

Ford BlueCruise Availability

That shows no love for F150 Lightening owners. Are they marching in the streets?

 

[Mike G]

Can’t we go by the version of IPMA?

We certainly can.....

 

[Mike G]

Now I get it. Your speculation makes you think the EA cars that got 1.4 are likely to be switched to 1.3 when those two modules are updated, but you have no information that those changes actually equal a change from 1.4 to 1.3. Despite that, you said with total certainty that vehicles already had been switched to 1.3. In reality, two people have already said they are still on 1.4.

tl;dr: You were guessing and were wrong.

I was premature to suggest that the '21 models that got the OTA 7.x.x updates, to what was referred to at the time as "BC 1.4", have already been updated to the same IPMA/PSCM revisions that rolled out recently for '23 and '22 models and are referenced as the update to BC 1.3.

Okay you caught me.

That may not have happened yet. But I can't see those cars being allowed to stay on a separate software branch forever, instead of being updated to the final shipping revision everybody else is getting. That's not how I see this playing out.

That doesn't change the fact that there doesn't seem to be any differences in the feature set of the test "BC 1.4" and the recently rolled out OTA, or shipping production versions, of BC 1.3 (and nobody has come forward to dispute this).

 

[Mike G]

That shows no love for F150 Lightening owners. Are they marching in the streets?

Due to issues with software involving the powertrain, and the anticipation of a new gateway revision that is apparently necessary to facilitate fixing those concerns...other things like the arrival of the new Sync 1122...as well as any updates to BC have been impacted. This "fix" is supposed to arrive in August now (was initially supposed to be June). So after that update sorts out those issues we would probably see some updates flowing again.

 

[RickMachE]

I would put forth that most people have no clue what version they have. Also the poll has so many choices it is unusable.

 

[garyd9]

I don't understand the comments on 1.3 vs 1.4....

Other than guesses, how can a person even know what version label they have? Is there a particular IPMA strategy that's been blessed as being "1.4"? If you have a strategy that seems to be higher than that, what version do you have? Maybe people are able to see "1.3" or "1.4" on the sync "about" screen?

What I'm getting at is that with how Ford is sending these updates out, "1.3" and "1.4" are meaningless labels. We can't even look at our cars and point to an "about" screen that shows "1.3" or "1.4". The labels could just as well be "Tom" and "Joe"

Is the "1.3" that Ford is currently pushing to EA the same/identical 1.3 that 2023.5 cars got from the factory? Or maybe it's closer to the "1.4" that was pushed earlier to EA's?

Who really knows? At this point, I'm not even sure Ford has a clue.

Maybe "1.3" is really the same as "1.2" but with some extra code added so it works with newer 2023.5 and 2024 cars. And perhaps 1.4 is/was just a backport or the 1.3 code to older cars.

It seems that "1.3" is more of a marketing gimmick than it is an actual version/revision number.

 

[Mike G]

I don't understand the comments on 1.3 vs 1.4....

Other than guesses, how can a person even know what version label they have? Is there a particular IPMA strategy that's been blessed as being "1.4"? If you have a strategy that seems to be higher than that, what version do you have? Maybe people are able to see "1.3" or "1.4" on the sync "about" screen?

What I'm getting at is that with how Ford is sending these updates out, "1.3" and "1.4" are meaningless labels. We can't even look at our cars and point to an "about" screen that shows "1.3" or "1.4". The labels could just as well be "Tom" and "Joe"

Is the "1.3" that Ford is currently pushing to EA the same/identical 1.3 that 2023.5 cars got from the factory? Or maybe it's closer to the "1.4" that was pushed earlier to EA's?

Who really knows? At this point, I'm not even sure Ford has a clue.

Maybe "1.3" is really the same as "1.2" but with some extra code added so it works with newer 2023.5 and 2024 cars. And perhaps 1.4 is/was just a backport or the 1.3 code to older cars.

It seems that "1.3" is more of a marketing gimmick than it is an actual version/revision number.

BC 1.3 is supposed to be...BC 1.3... no matter how you got it.

I'd look for the -BAE as a clue (DID F188). That's what we're seeing on '23 and '22 models.

From Ford's website:

What the difference between BlueCruise versions 1.0, 1.2 and 1.3?

BlueCruise 1.0 – Builds on available Adaptive Cruise Control and Lane Centering to add hands-free driving capabilities on prequalified sections of divided highways called hands-free Blue Zones.

BlueCruise 1.2 – Adds new features including In-Lane Repositioning (which can give you more space by subtly shifting away from vehicles in adjacent lanes) and Lane Change Assist (tapping your turn signal to initiate a hands-free lane change).

BlueCruise 1.3 – Helps you stay engaged longer in hands-free mode by improving performance, with greater ability to navigate narrow lanes and curves.

And here's what shipped originally with your car:

 

[CarGuy11]

Is the "1.3" that Ford is currently pushing to EA the same/identical 1.3 that 2023.5 cars got from the factory? Or maybe it's closer to the "1.4" that was pushed earlier to EA's?

This is what I want to know.

 

[garyd9]

BC 1.3 is supposed to be...BC 1.3... no matter how you got it.

I'd look for the -BAE as a clue (DID F188). That's what we're seeing on '23 and '22 models.

That's an OTA release note. Since when do those have any relationship to reality or what the OTA actually delivered? (that's only slightly sarcastic...)

For example, what about this release note as part of Power-up 6.14:

- The Public Charging application, previously known as Charge Assist, can be located in your application drawer, where other apps live.

And yet MANY people have 6.14 without any "public charging" app.

 

[Mike G]

That's an OTA release note. Since when do those have any relationship to reality or what the OTA actually delivered? (that's only slightly sarcastic...)

For example, what about this release note as part of Power-up 6.14:

And yet MANY people have 6.14 without any "public charging" app.

I do not have the Public Charging app....but that has been acknowledged as an error, and can be fixed (I never found it useful when it was called Charge Assist so I'm not rushing out to get that fixed anytime soon).

The OTA release note I posted says at the top that it's BC 1.3.

 

[SonicBlue]

I don't understand the comments on 1.3 vs 1.4....

Other than guesses, how can a person even know what version label they have? Is there a particular IPMA strategy that's been blessed as being "1.4"? If you have a strategy that seems to be higher than that, what version do you have? Maybe people are able to see "1.3" or "1.4" on the sync "about" screen?

What I'm getting at is that with how Ford is sending these updates out, "1.3" and "1.4" are meaningless labels. We can't even look at our cars and point to an "about" screen that shows "1.3" or "1.4". The labels could just as well be "Tom" and "Joe"

Is the "1.3" that Ford is currently pushing to EA the same/identical 1.3 that 2023.5 cars got from the factory? Or maybe it's closer to the "1.4" that was pushed earlier to EA's?

Who really knows? At this point, I'm not even sure Ford has a clue.

Maybe "1.3" is really the same as "1.2" but with some extra code added so it works with newer 2023.5 and 2024 cars. And perhaps 1.4 is/was just a backport or the 1.3 code to older cars.

It seems that "1.3" is more of a marketing gimmick than it is an actual version/revision number.

I bet someone at @Ford Motor Company knows whether the new 1.3 is different from the old and short-lived 1.4.

This would be a good opportunity for whomever runs the @Ford Motor Company account to ask this question of a BC engineer, and then post the answer here for our benefit.

 

[garyd9]

I bet someone at @Ford Motor Company knows whether the new 1.3 is different from the old and short-lived 1.4.

This would be a good opportunity for whomever runs the @Ford Motor Company account to ask this question of a BC engineer, and then post the answer here for our benefit.

I'm not sure if they'd do what you're asking, but I'm sure they'd be happy to take your VIN and contact your dealership with any concerns. Afterall, you're the best part of Ford.

 

[Mike G]

BTW, I just now looked up the VIN for a '21 model that did benefit from the EA OTA 7.x.x BC 1.4 program.

And while I realize that the BC 1.3 OTA has not gone out to '21 models yet (EA or otherwise), I can tell you that the IPMA revision this car currently shows is "-ACJ".

Which is the same rev that my '23 model running BC 1.2 had...before I got the update to BC 1.3 (now IPMA rev. "-BAE").

So I look forward to seeing that new IPMA update roll out to the '21 models, hopefully soon (maybe this "OTA Friday" will be the one?).

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