BMW gets in the game

[duneii]

Now taking pre-orders for spring 22 deliveries on the i4 and i4M. Price (and range) comparable to the MME and GT. Depending on the options cost.

BMW i4

Would the SUV (SAV in BMW speak) be more comparable rather than the sedan? iX Electric Sports Activity Vehicle – Future Vehicles | BMW USA

Both MME & the iX are ~5s & ~300 mile range. Though the BMW iX starts at $83k and perhaps might not be so comparable.

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[waldo1949]

I'm sorry but that front...

They doubled down on the Edsel look!

 

[Carmel Mach E Auto]

It's all rather moot at this point until BMW releases the trim levels with base equipment and options. No matter what, I'm sure it will be a fine car.

Indeed, US ordering/pricing guides are not yet available. But, looking at M440i info we can expect at least $15k in options. Some of that will be autonomous features also optional on the Mach-E GT, but there will likely be a charge for leather, heated seats, wireless phone charger, integrated garage door opener, etc.

Having trouble coming up with a configuration that the mach e isn't better spec wise. The base version is $15K over the mach e base, and the AWD version is almost $10K over the high end GT version..

i4 M50
MSRP: $65,900 + $995 Destination

Mach-E GT Performance
MSRP: $64,900 + $1100 Destination

 

[jlauro]

i4 M50
MSRP: $65,900 + $995 Destination

Mach-E GT Performance
MSRP: $64,900 + $1100 Destination

That does bring it close. Someone posted $77k earlier, but not finding any official mention of the higher price.

 

[t12g]

Really curious about how the m50 handles. If it's anywhere close to Taycan, that would be pretty enticing.

 

[RedStallion]

I really like it besides the front grill.

That was front? ?

 

[mr_raider]

Who is making their battery and electric drive?

BMW is pretty shallow in EV expertise.

 

[Carmel Mach E Auto]

Who is making their battery and electric drive?

They manufacture those themselves. Obviously the battery cells themselves come from an outside supplier just as with all of the other players.

BMW is pretty shallow in EV expertise.

It sounds like perhaps you have some inside information?

To an outsider, it would appear that most traditional automakers could be expected to have the same, fairly minimal experience developing and building EV technology. For example, Ford's first BEV of the modern era (2010-) was the Focus electric, GM's was the Bolt, Hyundai Motor Group's was the Ioniq, and BMW's was the i3. Nissan/Renault beat them all to the punch (including Tesla, even) with the Leaf, though Hyundai Motor has offered the most selection. And of course they all have PHEVs too which offer additional lessons learned. But really, everyone is "new" to the game.

I'm intrigued though. Please elaborate on your statement.

 

[jlauro]

Given the price, I would say it's more competitive with the Tesla Model S as a more luxury model.

 

[Alan]

I had a 2014 i3 BEV bought new, with an MSRP just over $50K. Had a 4 year bumper-to-bumper warranty, which I believe has been changed to 3 years on new BMWs. About a year out of warranty, the AC failed. Book value just prior to the AC failure was $16K. Repair quote on the AC was over $22K! Cause was probably a design failure of not having a trap designed into the system like most auto AC systems, which allowed shrapnel from the self-destructing compressor to destroy the entire system, including the cooling lines that ran through the battery directly. That allowed a $5K compressor failure turn into a $22K AC system failure. BMW would not stand up to their design failure which cost me over $7K (book value before AC failure minus book value for salvage after failure).

Had they offered me the prior book value as trade on a new i3, I would be driving another i3 now, rather than a Mach E. Had BMW stood behind their design failure, there might have been many more BMWs in my future, rather than absolutely zero more BMWs in my future. I guess I should be thankful, as I am loving my Mach E FE today!

 

[Scarpia]

I had a 2014 i3 BEV bought new, with an MSRP just over $50K. Had a 4 year bumper-to-bumper warranty, which I believe has been changed to 3 years on new BMWs. About a year out of warranty, the AC failed. Book value just prior to the AC failure was $16K. Repair quote on the AC was over $22K! Cause was probably a design failure of not having a trap designed into the system like most auto AC systems, which allowed shrapnel from the self-destructing compressor to destroy the entire system, including the cooling lines that ran through the battery directly. That allowed a $5K compressor failure turn into a $22K AC system failure. BMW would not stand up to their design failure which cost me over $7K (book value before AC failure minus book value for salvage after failure).

Had they offered me the prior book value as trade on a new i3, I would be driving another i3 now, rather than a Mach E. Had BMW stood behind their design failure, there might have been many more BMWs in my future, rather than absolutely zero more BMWs in my future. I guess I should be thankful, as I am loving my Mach E FE today!

Wow, what a story. This kind of thing worries me, not particularly about the Mach E, but as a cautionary tale about the new ground that is being broken with high-tech cars (especially EVs) and systems being introduced that are unproven. I think BMW does plenty of R&D and still that happened.
I'm probably going to go for an extended warranty.

 

[theo1000]

Doesn't the 4 separate compressors and off the shelf MachE design make more sense now.

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