BorgWarner supplying integrated drive module for Mach-E

[macchiaz-o]

Ohhh. Good question. I'm curious, also.

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[EVer]

They definitely use the ISO symbol. It also looks like they've taken some weight out of the casing.

 

[macchiaz-o]

They definitely use the ISO symbol. It also looks like they've taken some weight out of the casing.

This picture from the Jalopnik article is the smaller, front motor (for a AWD non-GT).

 

[JDRGolfer1]

Horses live here

 

[ChasingCoral]

A story on this from https://www.greencarreports.com/new...help-free-up-space-in-the-ford-mustang-mach-e

Integrated drive modules help free up space in the Ford Mustang Mach-E

STEPHEN EDELSTEIN AUGUST 10, 2020


The 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E electric SUV will take advantage of the system integration experience of transmission and drive-system supplier BorgWarner to free up interior space.

BorgWarner is supplying its Integrated Drive Module (IDM), which includes a thermal-management system and gearbox, packaged with "motor and power electronics from other suppliers," according to a company press release.

One engineering highlight is the use of a concentric design for the gearbox, with outputs on the same axis as the electric motor. This results in a more compact package, according to BorgWarner.

Versions of the unit are used in both rear-wheel drive and all-wheel drive Mach-E models.

In an earlier interview with Mach-E chief program engineer Ron Heiser, we learned that the Mach-E motors were outsourced, although Ford had a lot of input, and that it had to completely redo the rear suspension design—versus an earlier development version of the vehicle—to get the RWD-biased package right.


BorgWarner Integrated Drive Module

It's not clear whether these are the same units that Ford applied to its recent seven-motor Mach-E 1400 drift machine. Those motors combine to produce 1,400 horsepower—hence the "1400" moniker.

In addition to the two battery packs to be offered, Ford has said that there will be at least two different battery "tunes"—reflecting different power strategies—across the Mach-E lineup.

Having modular systems might have helped free up space for things like a very large frunk, adding cargo space and thus giving this SUV a bit more utility.

The Mach-E isn't the only electrification system that Ford has made modular. One other example would be its 10-speed hybrid system—to be used a wide range of SUVs and trucks, including the Explorer and F-150.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

Horses live here

Hamsters. They run around in the metal wheel and that is what moves the car. It's the next generation of what we all had as kids for our pet hamsters.

(shown here in Electric Pink)

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

Horses live here

Kidding aside, it does look like that might be the bottom of the word "HORSES"!

 

[silverelan]

Well that's interesting. It says that BorgWarner has designed a new front motor for the GT.

 

[macchiaz-o]

Well that's interesting. It says that BorgWarner has designed a new front motor for the GT.

Do you mean this sentence?

On the all-wheel-drive GT version, BorgWarner is supplying the secondary drive unit to power the front wheels as well.

I don't read this to mean a new front motor. It's supposed to be the same motor front and back on GT, though the packaging could reasonably have some differences (but who knows).

 

[buzznwood]

Do you mean this sentence?



I don't read this to mean a new front motor. It's supposed to be the same motor front and back on GT, though the packaging could reasonably have some differences (but who knows).

In time we should get more specification would be nice to see the width dimension of how wide the motor and gearbox are, hopefully the gearbox is pretty small and leaves room for a potential twin motor upgrade in the rear similar to what audi has done for the e-tron sportback s model

 

[silverelan]

Do you mean this sentence?



I don't read this to mean a new front motor. It's supposed to be the same motor front and back on GT, though the packaging could reasonably have some differences (but who knows).

"The iDM is being supplied to power the Mustang Mach-E’s rear-wheel drive and all-wheel-drive configurations. On the all-wheel-drive GT version, BorgWarner is supplying the secondary drive unit to power the front wheels as well. Start of production is slated to begin this year."

The press release clearly says they're supplying a secondary drive unit for the GT as well as the front and rear motors for the non-GT.

This means there are three different motors for the Mach-E.

 

[ChasingCoral]

"The iDM is being supplied to power the Mustang Mach-E’s rear-wheel drive and all-wheel-drive configurations. On the all-wheel-drive GT version, BorgWarner is supplying the secondary drive unit to power the front wheels as well. Start of production is slated to begin this year."

The press release clearly says they're supplying a secondary drive unit for the GT as well as the front and rear motors for the non-GT.

This means there are three different motors for the Mach-E.

Unless something has changed, all the materials at the time of the Mach E release indicated the GT would have the same motor in front and rear. The front probably is slightly modified from the rear to operate in a forward configuration.

 

[silverelan]

Unless something has changed, all the materials at the time of the Mach E release indicated the GT would have the same motor in front and rear. The front probably is slightly modified from the rear to operate in a forward configuration.

A newly developed third motor for the GT explains the additional delay for its release from spring to late summer 2021.

 

[macchiaz-o]

The press release clearly says they're supplying a secondary drive unit for the GT as well as the front and rear motors for the non-GT.

This means there are three different motors for the Mach-E.

I'm interpreting "secondary" to mean the second motor -- the one in front, with the one in the rear being considered as the primary motor.

You may very well be right, but the GT delays could also be from a whole host of reasons we'll never know.

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