Cambridge MA Police Mach-E

[DennisD]

You're basing my past vehicle purchases on an assumption that I don't attempt to buy American products as a whole. My choice to purchase several Audi's in the past are because they have been reliable and they fit my needs whereas many other options at the time didn't or I had prior bad experiences with those brands. Ultimately, I'm going to protect myself and my family. The government has policies to do the same, protect our investments and increase reliance of domestic supply chains. All I'm saying is that there's a lot of EV options that are made here and I feel they should have chosen those vehicles over the MachE. It's not an insult to the MachE and it's unfortunate that Ford shipped assembly out of the country. Ford's reasoning for doing this is because of the free trade agreement Mexico has with the Asian and European regions. It's just a money grab on behalf of Ford while hurting American auto workers.

Yes, technically America is a continent, but Americans are typically referred to as those in the USA and that's the way I'm using it. Being that I speak, read and write fluent Spanish, in some parts of South America they actually refer to us as "Estadounidenses" or people of the United States rather than "Americanos" or Americans.

I totally understand your point. You purchased your vehicles because you thought they were better choices for your family. I did/do the same. ?

The same can be said for a Police Force. If the Force thinks this would be a better option, then the logic you used and the logic they used are on the same page as I stated in the past post.

You were the one that stated that "tax dollars" should be used on US made products because a dollar taxed should be used for a US job so to speak.

While I am on the same page as you with purchasing privately, I just think if you would have made your opinion known, you would have been on more solid ground if you in turn would have purchased a US made product rather than supporting foreign jobs over US jobs.

Don't you see the irony?

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[DevSecOps]

I agree with you on all points, but I would say the police also prefer the classic brand and car image. Had the police been getting Ionic 5s there would have been revolt and more stir.

See, I don't own a Tesla and probably never will. It's a personal choice because I just don't like their style and it's not based on anything else. However, Tesla is 100% American (USA) Made. That's the alternative choice that the government has. They could be deploying Tesla's as Police vehicles and they would be fulfilling their commitment, but they wont.

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/21/tesla-honda-volkswagen-american-made-cars

Don't you see the irony?

I see what you're trying to do, yes, but I don't agree with your logic. We have free choice to purchase what we so choose, foreign or not. Our government doesn't have that same luxury. They have different requirements and obligations than I do. My original comment was that I would prefer if our tax dollars went to US products because that's what they are supposed to do. The governments power with money can change the world, my bank account with two dollars in it can't. There's a reason we impose regulations on tax dollars because it's significantly more meaningful. My latest EV is a Rivian, which is manufactured in Illinois. I do try to buy American made products when they suit my needs. I don't think an MME with a 5 second limit and an HVBJB that's likely to fry is exactly suiting the needs of the police force. Personally, I feel like something else is going on.

 

[MacherAWD]

See, I don't own a Tesla and probably never will. It's a personal choice because I just don't like their style and it's not based on anything else. However, Tesla is 100% American (USA) Made. That's the alternative choice that the government has. They could be deploying Tesla's as Police vehicles and they would be fulfilling their commitment, but they wont.

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/21/tesla-honda-volkswagen-american-made-cars

Yeah at current price a T3 RWD for police is much more frugal but that would also trigger more of a reaction.

 

[DevSecOps]

Yeah at current price a T3 RWD for police is much more frugal but that would also trigger more of a reaction.

Yeah I agree and that's what I don't like. Our Government shouldn't be picking which USA made product they buy based on who the CEO is, if they are Union or what some people would think, based on who the CEO is. To me, that goes against what they are obligated to do and childish.

I will admit, the MachE as a police car looks amazing and I would love to see more, but I and many others wish it was made here. Maybe if all MMEs came with a bottle of tequila and some avocados it would change my mind.

But anyway, that's just my 2 cents.

 

[MachEMaster]

Spotted this morning in Cambridge, MA!

Is this actually still something special at all? I remember at some point people were pretty excited about Mach-E police cars. How common is that at this point?

I fondly remember when police drove 5.0L Interceptors.

 

[DennisD]

Yeah I agree and that's what I don't like. Our Government shouldn't be picking which USA made product they buy based on who the CEO is, if they are Union or what some people would think, based on who the CEO is. To me, that goes against what they are obligated to do and childish.

I will admit, the MachE as a police car looks amazing and I would love to see more, but I and many others wish it was made here. Maybe if all MMEs came with a bottle of tequila and some avocados it would change my mind.

But anyway, that's just my 2 cents.

I can see that from a Federal level but a Small City board should be looking at total costs to protect the taxpayer more than "is it American made?"

If they did it my way, I would have more than two cents to share.

 

[agdad]

According to Ford, it's only the GTs that have the beefed up 12V system to support the extra load of police accessories.

Well that's obviously not true because this Police Cruiser is not a GT

 

[DevSecOps]

Well that's obviously not true because this Police Cruiser is not a GT

Wouldn't surprise me if they ordered the wrong one.

"The base vehicle (non-GT) does not have capacity for additional loads beyond vehicle standard equipment. This vehicle configuration should not be used for applications that add aftermarket equipment."

https://www.macheforum.com/site/attachments/mach-e_police_modifier_bulletin-pdf.70436/

 

[jpiazza67]

How long will a high speed chase survive a battery drain?

 

[67 Stang Convertible]

I love when the threads go off in different directions!!! Makes it a lot more fun.

 

[HuntingPudel]

How long will a high speed chase survive a battery drain?

Since it’s not a GT, it will go for more than 5 seconds, but I expect that this is an administrative vehicle, not a pursuit vehicle. ?‍?

 

[DevSecOps]

How long will a high speed chase survive a battery drain?

It's a valid question not only in terms of battery drain, but also performance. The current Ford Explorer, that a lot of agencies use, has a max speed of 145 while this version of the MachE has a max of 114. Additionally, due to jail bars (which exist even if they aren't shown) if the SOC of the battery is lower acceleration and performance as a whole is severely limited.

 

[p_haze]

NYPD has these too. Saw this in Central Park last month.

 

[DevSecOps]

NYPD has these too. Saw this in Central Park last month.

They ordered 184 of them. As far as I'm aware, they have the most of any force in the country.

 

[blkadr08]

There have been quite a few, but it's still cool to see. They should have gone with a GT though.

Not really. This is a city POLICE Department. 99% plus of its use will be better served by extended range. If MA has a State Highway Patrol, or some such, at GT or GTPE would be more appropriate ( so long As pursuits never exceeded 5 seconds).

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