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[Fremont Kid]

Don't get me started on that issue.

They have the stickers, but they're "allegedly" no longer allowed to use them, according to corporate.

The sign behind the car says you'll get towed. You won't.

Nevada is a mess. The leases say that you have to have valid plates on a vehicle for it to be on the property. But here's the nightmare behind that. Nevada has a high annual property tax on vehicles. For example, the plate and registration cost for my MME was $916.

So all over Las Vegas, you'll see cars with no plates or expired plates. The cops basically do nothing about it, and probably figure you'll have to square with the DMV sooner or later.

I was reporting the no plate and expired plate vehicles also, because they may not have insurance either. But, I got shot down on those with the latest management.

At one point, one of the maintenance guys was driving a car with no plates on it.

Unfortunately if the people who are supposed to enforce don't care, then rules/laws won't be enforced. Lowest common denominator.

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[Fremont Kid]

Why should I pay for the big ol' swimming pool and 50 fifty lawn chairs out back when I don't use it?

Should I continue with the other amenities I don't use that I'm helping to pay for? Like Happy Hour on Saturday afternoons, etc.?

There's one Level 2 charger in the whole community. If there were 25, I might agree with you.

This is akin to asking why you should pay school district taxes when you don't have anyone attending public schools. Answer: An educated public benefits everyone. In an apartment complex you benefit by living alongside people who are more enjoyable, happy, satisfied because the complex has those amenities. That said, people who take unfair advantage of amenities reduce the benefits for everyone. I support calling a tow truck if management will not.

 

[Fremont Kid]

God, that was a priceless story. This big old Lincoln Continental with no plates started showing up in the parking lot. I walk my dog numerous times daily, so you can't help spot what's what. So, I poked my head in the office as I was coming back in and reported the vehicle with no plates, in violation of the lease.

Management's response? "It's okay, it belongs to him," the assistant manager said, pointing to one of the new maintenance guys.

I would have loved to have seen the outcome of the car accident. The gossip was that he wrecked it on the way to work on one of our blue-moon rainy days. Last we've seen of him.

How many teeth was he missing?

 

[TheVirtualTim]

Don't get me started on that issue.

They have the stickers, but they're "allegedly" no longer allowed to use them, according to corporate.

This probably depends on state law. In Michigan, you can't put one of those stickers on any window that might impair the driver's view. Turns out the only window that really qualifies ... is the back-seat window on the driver's side of the car. A driver really cannot ever use that window while driving. Anything else could be argued to be impairing the driver's view of the road.

I only know this because years ago I knew someone who was head of corporate security of a major auto-maker and he told me they have to train their security guards to only use that particular window when tagging a car for a parking violation (of course they could also have the car towed).

 

[Mirak]

If you're applying that to me, a couple of flies are in your ointment.

First, as an EV owner and 100% disabled veteran, I have a vested interest in being able to charge my vehicle. There's a shortage of chargers near me, and then there's the problem of them being taken or broken. The VA hospital is on the other side of the city, a 35-mile round trip. I've been averaging 5-6 visits a month lately. I've been in the ER four times this year.

And this is a 55+ plus community, so I'm not the only "old person with health issues." Ambulances roll in this place numerous times weekly. People spend their days going to doctor appointments. If they own an EV, they should be able to charge it without arguing with the rulebreakers or cajoling management into confronting them.

To further spoil your little hit piece, I only recently returned to an EV in late October. For the past year, I owned an ICE vehicle. During that time, I quit fighting the charger parking battle and left it to those who owned EVs. Why? It's tiring. And reporting stuff pits you against your neighbors. It also often gives you a bad relationship with management because they usually prefer to ignore things rather than confront them. However, I did report the lady who was using the charger commercially for Lyft and Uber.

You also have to consider my background. I'm a retired Army senior NCO. I used to run large facilities and manage hundreds of people daily. I spent my days for years confronting people about this, that, or another on behalf of the taxpayers and military readiness.

Call me what you want. I am what I am. But I'm not a "dirty rulebreaker." I go out of my way to do the right thing and be a good person.

Ok. You’re doing more to prove my point than I think you realize. Thank you for your service.

 

[Mirak]

Are we? That's...not....the impression I've been getting lately. Like...at all.

I don't disagree with you that's where we SHOULD be. But only if the live and let live mantra isn't impacting someone else negatively.

The expired tags and all that, totally 100% agree...let that one go. Didn't put your trash can away right away? Let that one go.

But someone parking in an EV charging spot? Tow em. If management company won't take care of it, call a tow company yourself....ESPECIALLY if the interaction with the asshole was as described.

I generally agree with you. My comments were more directed at the apparent overall demeanor of the OP - not the specific ICEing situation. Though I still think a polite “excuse me, the folks who live here don’t have garages to charge, can you please not block that spot?” is a better way to approach things, at least at the outset.

We are getting coarser, meaner, more brittle as a society. Social media has been taking us in this direction for decades, but Covid cranked everything up to an 11. It isn’t good. I don’t condone rule breaking, but I also try to avoid casting stones, and the hobbyist compliance officers tend to make things nastier, not better.

 

[AKgrampy]

Preferential parking is found at many apartment complexes. Sometimes in the form of numbered spaces, paid spaces, higher rent units, handicap spaces, vehicle size, manager preference, etc.

Understood. My original thought was if the free charging wasn’t in such a prime spot perhaps jerks would not block it. Also being free there were jerky EV owners abusing it. Also the apartment wasn’t enforcing the restrictions. Just leads to conflict from my perspective but I understand the why of it and I would always let others take advantage of those opportunities.

 

[thekat03]

If you're applying that to me, a couple of flies are in your ointment.

First, as an EV owner and 100% disabled veteran, I have a vested interest in being able to charge my vehicle. There's a shortage of chargers near me, and then there's the problem of them being taken or broken. The VA hospital is on the other side of the city, a 35-mile round trip. I've been averaging 5-6 visits a month lately. I've been in the ER four times this year.

And this is a 55+ plus community, so I'm not the only "old person with health issues." Ambulances roll in this place numerous times weekly. People spend their days going to doctor appointments. If they own an EV, they should be able to charge it without arguing with the rulebreakers or cajoling management into confronting them.

To further spoil your little hit piece, I only recently returned to an EV in late October. For the past year, I owned an ICE vehicle. During that time, I quit fighting the charger parking battle and left it to those who owned EVs. Why? It's tiring. And reporting stuff pits you against your neighbors. It also often gives you a bad relationship with management because they usually prefer to ignore things rather than confront them. However, I did report the lady who was using the charger commercially for Lyft and Uber.

You also have to consider my background. I'm a retired Army senior NCO. I used to run large facilities and manage hundreds of people daily. I spent my days for years confronting people about this, that, or another on behalf of the taxpayers and military readiness.

Call me what you want. I am what I am. But I'm not a "dirty rulebreaker." I go out of my way to do the right thing and be a good person.

You should suggest to the VA to have chargers installed. Vets often spend long visits at the VA, so even a slow level 2 would help. ?
(Disclaimer: I work for a VA, but I would rather prioritize charger access for patients first, and staff if that's doable later.)

 

[Kevmont]

It'd be terrible if some asshole came along and keyed that nice paint job!

 

[Mirak]

"You and I both know there are people who enjoy being the tattlers."

What is your point? Are you claiming that I'm a "tattler" and that I enjoy it?

Yes.

We recently had elementary school-age kids living in the building, against the lease rules. When management tried to enforce the age restrictions, the grandmother took them to court. I had seen them departing each morning for month, so management asked me to write a letter for the court case. Unlike the other residents who complained, that put my name in the public complaint record.

I had to take an effing Valium after writing it because of my PTSD, worrying if the father would do something to me or my vehicle. So, I'm enjoying this stuff in your twisted eyes?

Good grief. You are again, sadly, proving my point.

Sorry, we sometimes make things better. The couch surfers with the kids and the grandmother all got evicted after the court case. All the gossip about that blatant lease violation stopped. Happiness settled back in.

Good God, man. I hope and pray you get some help with your PTSD.

 

[DadzBoyz]

Imagine having a free Level 2 charger in a premium parking spot at your apartment complex, but jerks with ICE vehicles keep taking it when your battery is low.

My side job is photographing and reporting them to management...

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I'd print out a stack of messages to put on the ICE cars. Alternatively, ask property management (who installed the charger for EV use) to print out an approved message and place them on the cars and/or hand you some copies so you can place them.
Regrettably, in our current time, if you print it out it should be anonymous (for safety with the crazies out there), but nice.
If you write something sarcastic or mean, you are creating an adversary that will do all they can to continually park there in the future.
You get more bees with honey than vinegar kind of thing.

 

[DadzBoyz]

It occurred to me that I should recaption this one.

Imagine having a free Level 2 charger in a premium parking spot at your apartment complex, but jerks with ICE vehicles jerks with EVs that aren't charging keep taking it when your battery is low.

My side job is photographing and reporting them to management sharing this neighborhood drama with you to warn those with EVs thinking of moving here...

Maybe ask management to change the signs and writing on the space to say "EV Charging Only".

 

[Mirak]

Mirak, can you have one of your "polite, neighborly" conversations with this one today if you get a free moment?

Sorry, no. I don't want to be anywhere near you or your development. You're creeping me out, dude. You seriously need to take a step back for your mental health. Life's too short to carry so much anger. God bless.

 

[AKgrampy]

You should suggest to the VA to have chargers installed. Vets often spend long visits at the VA, so even a slow level 2 would help. ?
(Disclaimer: I work for a VA, but I would rather prioritize charger access for patients first, and staff if that's doable later.)

I mean this seriously but I doubt many veterans seeking help from the VA can afford an EV. If they can hopefully they are like myself and have a home EVSE where they get the best price for electricity. I do not think there is enough money already to support the many veterans in need that we should spend additional money for the few who can afford an EV. I am fortunate that I was able to use the GI bill to get an education and have a successful career after serving so I will not need the benefits so many other veterans remain in need of. Once again just my thoughts.

 

[DadzBoyz]

We had a conversation this morning. They're "allegedly" going to send out a blast memo.

That's a first step, but you have to take a multi-pronged approach.
Blast Memo Email - Most will go unread and be delete (probably seen as junk/spam).
Blast Memo mailbox, door hangar, etc. - Most will be seen as junk mail, sales flyer, or the like and be unread and trashed.
Management flyer on the car - Targeted, less common, and I think more likely to be seen and read.
Your own anonymous (safety first, not looking for trouble) flyer on the car - same

Ultimately, the best solution would be for management to issue special stickers for approved EV's with clear instructions that cars must be plugged in and charging while using the spot and ticket the cars that are not charging, EV's approved, or ICE cars in the spot.

They'll say they can't enforce it on existing residents with leases. Not necessarily true. When they add a new feature or service, leases are amended all the time.
They CAN add the rule and enforcement to all new leases as well.

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