Mach-e .... a road warrior ???

[Deleted member 3569]

I believe that Mach-e w/68 kwH battery is a very capable road warrior. I have done almost 1,200 miles on mine since I picked up this past May 24. I have traveled from Northern NJ to Northern PA, throughout NJ, to NYC, then onward to the autoTrain station in Lorton VA, where I patronized EA's dcFast chargers in NJ, DE, MD & VA.
I start my trip @ 100% SOC w/235 miles ... I deplete it to about 40%, then charge up to 80% in less than 15-18 minutes at 350 kW charger and about 20-35 minutes in a 150 kW charger ... to me this is more than adequate.

I have yet to venture in areas where EA is non-existent, such as in the Blue Ridge mountain regions of TN & GA where available 50 kW charges are either by evGo or chargePoint. I am also thinking in getting a Tesla to J5112 plug so that I can tap into any Tesla destination chargers at various commercial establishments (you need a Tesla app to find these, but their app is quite comprehensive).

Welcome any comments ... good or bad. Thanks ....

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[SeattleMachE]

You can use Plugshare to find Tesla destination chargers as well

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

I believe that Mach-e w/68 kwH battery is a very capable road warrior. I have done almost 1,200 miles on mine since I picked up this past May 24. I have traveled from Northern NJ to Northern PA, throughout NJ, to NYC, then onward to the autoTrain station in Lorton VA, where I patronized EA's dcFast chargers in NJ, DE, MD & VA.
I start my trip @ 100% SOC w/235 miles ... I deplete it to about 40%, then charge up to 80% in less than 15-18 minutes at 350 kW charger and about 20-35 minutes in a 150 kW charger ... to me this is more than adequate.

I have yet to venture in areas where EA is non-existent, such as in the Blue Ridge mountain regions of TN & GA where available 50 kW charges are either by evGo or chargePoint. I am also thinking in getting a Tesla to J5112 plug so that I can tap into any Tesla destination chargers at various commercial establishments (you need a Tesla app to find these, but their app is quite comprehensive).

Welcome any comments ... good or bad. Thanks ....

I generally agree. Been driving mine a fair amount. But tomorrow I want to go from Watertown NY to northern PA and back. There are no chargers easily accessible on the I-81 corridor south of Watertown. It would be a 340 mile round trip with one 50 kw charger down by my destination in PA. There are some DCFC in the Syracuse area but they’re on the thruway and would require me to get on the toll freeway, to get to the travel plaza, charge up. Then Get off the toll road and turn around to go the other way, get back off the toll road and back on I-81. Even then I would still need an hour at the 50 KW charger in PA.
Taking my MME would take a 5 hour round trip and make it take almost 7 hours including 3 charges and 4 tolls paid. I really want to take the MME, but it looks like the F-150 will be making this trip. A few chargers are being built on I-81 south of Syracuse but until they’re ready the MME will be confined to east west trips, not north south ones.

 

[RockwallRick]

Are you really able to charge faster off a 350kw charger? I thought the MME maxed out at 150kw. I’ve only tried a EA 350 charger once but it resulted in a charge fault.

 

[Deleted member 3569]

Are you really able to charge faster off a 350kw charger? I thought the MME maxed out at 150kw. I’ve only tried a EA 350 charger once but it resulted in a charge fault.

Good point... at 350 kW chargers it seems that I can sustain 120 kW rate a tad longer albeit a minute longer?... but it is the psychological factor.
The issue is that most of 350 kW chargers are off line and only 150 kW charges are available, but yes no issues w/350 kW chargers when available.

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

Good point... at 350 kW chargers it seems that I can sustain 120 kWH rate a tad longer albeit few minute longer?... but it is the psychological factor.

I’ve been able to reach 155 kw speeds for peak and maintain 145 kw speeds for a few minutes on a 350 kw charger. Versus a max of 124 on a 150 kw charger.

 

[Marcel]

Are you really able to charge faster off a 350kw charger? I thought the MME maxed out at 150kw. I’ve only tried a EA 350 charger once but it resulted in a charge fault.

The SR max out at 115kW/120kW, so it should make no difference

 

[ebeponyan]

I suppose it's also possible that the 150kw charger was being shared by another vehicle.

 

[Deleted member 3569]

I suppose it's also possible that the 150kw charger was being shared by another vehicle.

Not really ... whenever I went to ANY of the Electrify America 150/350 kW chargers in NJ, PA, DE, MD & VA .... I was the only lonely soul charging !!!

 

[ebeponyan]

Not really ... whenever I went to ANY of the Electrify America 150/350 kW chargers in NJ, PA, DE, MD & VA .... I was the only lonely soul charging !!!

Are you suggesting that I should trust your firsthand experience over my own wild speculation?

 

[Deleted member 3569]

Are you suggesting that I should trust your firsthand experience over my own wild speculation?

I ain't suggesting nothing .... all I am saying is when I was in NJ/NY area at any of the EA chargers (mostly Targets in NJ, Walmarts in PA, Wawa in DE) ...I never ever seen anyone else at these chargers. I used during Friday nights and during week nights. May be in NJ/NY metropolitan area most of Mach-e owners got home L2 chargers hooked up. I was transiting in NJ/NY/PA/DE so I had to use EA chargers but now that I am in my home turf in FL, I hardly use outside chargers.

 

[AZBill]

The reason you cannot get 150KW on those units at EA is likely due to the current limit on the machines, and the voltage the Mache E battery is at. The EA chargers made by ABB have a 350A current limit on the 150KW machines, and a 450A current limit on the 350KW machines. Voltage limit for both are at 920V.

The Mach E is a 400V system, but that means the nominal voltage at 50% SoC is 360V. 360V X 350A = 126KW maximum. To get 150KW you need 417A, thus the 350KW charger can provide that.

Also, the EA sites are NOT power shared, and only one car can charge at a time on a single dispenser. I have seen tests of 4 E-Tron's charging at 150KW simultaneously at one site (4 different dispensers).

I have seen some new EA Signet dispensers that claim an output of 500A for 150KW. I have not tested one of those yet, but will when I get a chance. The ABB dispensers were the first ones that EA deployed and those are the majority of the ones I have seen in Arizona.

 

[skuker]

I drove mine recently roundtrip from NJ to Florida generally on 350kw chargers I could get up to a max of 170kw for the first 3 to 4 minutes before dropping down to around 120kw.

 

[Deleted member 3569]

The reason you cannot get 150KW on those units at EA is likely due to the current limit on the machines, and the voltage the Mache E battery is at. The EA chargers made by ABB have a 350A current limit on the 150KW machines, and a 450A current limit on the 350KW machines. Voltage limit for both are at 920V.

The Mach E is a 400V system, but that means the nominal voltage at 50% SoC is 360V. 360V X 350A = 126KW maximum. To get 150KW you need 417A, thus the 350KW charger can provide that.

Also, the EA sites are NOT power shared, and only one car can charge at a time on a single dispenser. I have seen tests of 4 E-Tron's charging at 150KW simultaneously at one site (4 different dispensers).

I have seen some new EA Signet dispensers that claim an output of 500A for 150KW. I have not tested one of those yet, but will when I get a chance. The ABB dispensers were the first ones that EA deployed and those are the majority of the ones I have seen in Arizona.

Appreciated very much for your fact based answer, we need more participation of people who possess technical knowledge to answer our queries, specially from people like me who understands nothing about kWH, mi/kwH, etc...
Contrary to a lots of naysayers, my 68 kwH battery is a very capable long distances road trips ...the big issue that I have to conquer is how to use the Ford nav, the user interface is really horrible. I have to work w/Google maps, EA app & Pulg & Share app. Thank you ... thank you!!!

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