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[BigMach-E]

Recalls never expire. Ford still has parts for the Pinto gas tank recall. AMC had a recall for heater cores bursting in the Renault Alliance and as Chrysler bought AMC, they became responsible. 30 years later a local dealer sent a tech to a "collector" who has six Alliances in his field awaiting "restoration" to replace the heater cores.

Yes, but this recall language says nothing about replacing the HVJB, just performing a change/update to software. Ford really gets to have their cake and eat it too on this one. They didn’t have to replace a whole bunch of HVJBs at the same time, they got NTHSA off their back, and post warranty they have no obligations to the MME owner. Still not worth suing over.

What is concerning is that we have had some reports of the newer part failing. Only time will tell if the Mach-E is snake-bitten because of the design.

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[RickMachE]

As I recall, the lawsuit(s) were filed a) before the software was even applied to vehicles and b) by individuals who hadn't had failures. Don't know if any of them are still on the forum, but when they proclaimed what they were doing as I recall they were loudly condemned by the masses here.

 

[Teslaeata]

Why do people feel the need to sue over everything? I wish more judges would throw this sort of crap out, and fine the lawyers filing the cases for wasting the court's time.

I usually tend to hold this opinion working on other side of litigation-happy organisations claimants encouraged and/or exaggerate claims at all our cost.

However, when car maker’s make a part which is or becomes known to be poorly designed or made and they refuse to do something about it apart from de-tune the car so it the defective part no longer has to do the job it was supposed to be designed for in the first place effectively causing the representations originally made of cars’ performance to become mis-representations, they really need to be brought to book over it!

 

[Teslaeata]

If you want these things dealt with properly, I’m afraid we need to go with a car maker that recognises its responsibilities, just bites the bullet and fixes the problem with parts known to fail when they shouldn’t fail either under Safety Recall or an unconditional warranty repair before the consequences of failure manifest themselves.

As much as i could not, having worked for BBC’s consumer program Watchdog since 2008 with much success in shaming car makers into more then 15 UK Safety Recalls which they otherwise had no intention of doing, my experience is that Tesla is the firm to buy from in this respect.

I recall Bosch electric steering racks were falling off cars made by various makers, Land Rover being one, because fixing bolts inexplicably made from aluminium and placed in areas inherently exposed to corrosion etc were breaking.

As far as I can see, LR still fail to Safety Recall vehicles in markets where they aren’t forced to do so inc US, providing all sorts of bluster inc “voluntary recall” whatever the F that is, extended warranty which is effectively a fix upon fail leaving potential steering failures out there on the road etc as justification why they shouldn’t just deal with the issue, when Tesla have just dealt with the problem and carried out preventative measures FOC to their customers under Safety Recalls in all markets whether forced to do so or not as far as I can tell, and good on them!

Slightly different issue to some of our cars’ but same principle, probably:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1ZQWZkTh14xJJtQJ3nYH7mP/jaguar-land-rover

https://www.cars.com/research/tesla-model_s/recalls/?page=3

https://www.check-vehicle-recalls.s...le/make/TESLA/model/Model S/year/2015/recalls

Call for petition in UK for safety recall:

https://www.change.org/p/jaguar-lan...icles-with-aluminium-epas-steering-rack-bolts

 

[Mach1E]

Yes, but this recall language says nothing about replacing the HVJB, just performing a change/update to software. Ford really gets to have their cake and eat it too on this one. They didn’t have to replace a whole bunch of HVJBs at the same time, they got NTHSA off their back, and post warranty they have no obligations to the MME owner. Still not worth suing over.

What is concerning is that we have had some reports of the newer part failing. Only time will tell if the Mach-E is snake-bitten because of the design.

Have the newer parts actually failed, or did the recall just put the car in turtle mode “in case of failure?”

Huge difference between that and a car being stranded on the side of the road with a contractor welded open or shut.

 

[DYohn]

I usually tend to hold this opinion working on other side of ambulance chasing litigation-happy organisations that encourage and/or exaggerate claims at all our cost.

However, when car maker’s make a part which is or becomes known to be poorly designed or made and they refuse to do something about it apart from de-tune the car so it the defective part no longer has to do the job it was supposed to be designed for in the first place effectively causing the representations originally made of cars’ performance to become mis-representations, they really need to be brought to book over it!

Whatever, knock yourself out. I just hope it gets tossed out of court - and not because I'm some sort of Ford fan-boy but because I do not agree with your basic philosophy of how to force accountability. There are better ways, including, since it is just a car, selling and buying something else.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Have the newer parts actually failed, or did the recall just put the car in turtle mode “in case of failure?”

Huge difference between that and a car being stranded on the side of the road with a contractor welded open or shut.

My original design part is subject to an SVS (turtle mode - possibly welded closed or iminent failure, TBD). I recall reading about a couple of cars with "more robust" parts that have been subject to an SSN (definitely a broken part). Note that a welded closed contactor may result in an SVS since current can still flow. A melted contactor will result in an SSN because it can't close the contacts any more. ??

 

[BigMach-E]

Have the newer parts actually failed, or did the recall just put the car in turtle mode “in case of failure?”

Huge difference between that and a car being stranded on the side of the road with a contractor welded open or shut.

Agreed on the last point, unknown about the first.

 

[Mirak]

Whatever, knock yourself out. I just hope it gets tossed out of court - and not because I'm some sort of Ford fan-boy but because I do not agree with your basic philosophy of how to force accountability. There are better ways, including, since it is just a car, selling and buying something else.

Wait, what? I would much rather keep my car that I generally like quite a bit, and have Ford come up with a suitable repair for what appears to be a design flaw. If it takes a class action lawsuit to apply the appropriate pressure, what do you care? Why encourage people to sell their cars rather than press Ford to provide a suitable fix? I just don’t understand your position.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Is it wrong that I’m bothered by the lawyers’ description repeatedly referring to the “engine”?

No, not at all.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

8 years is your warranty.

8 years or 100,000 miles. There are people shockingly close to 100,000 miles right now.

 

[ThatGuyLando]

Have the newer parts actually failed, or did the recall just put the car in turtle mode “in case of failure?”

23's have failed and replacements have also failed , I don't trust that Ford has done anything at all to this point to fix it other than just replace it and hope it doesn't happen again. Hopefully there is documented evidence out there with the new parts (pictures, part numbers, etc) other than a "just trust us, this one's more robust" from Ford.

 

[Mach1E]

23's have failed and replacements have also failed , I don't trust that Ford has done anything at all to this point to fix it other than just replace it and hope it doesn't happen again. Hopefully there is documented evidence out there with the new parts (pictures, part numbers, etc) other than a "just trust us, this one's more robust" from Ford.

Have they welded shut or open though or just the new “SVS” and people drive to the dealership?

 

[Teslaeata]

8 years or 100,000 miles. There are people shockingly close to 100,000 miles right now.

Me next August ?

Does my face look bovvered if it fails before or after then??‍ Nah, life’s too short.

Am I bovvered if it fails after warranty and I have to pay to repair??‍ Nah, life’s too short, I’ll be dead before I can spent it anyway?

I’ll always lurv Stangy, it’s such a joy to own & drive!

 

[BigMach-E]

Wait, what? I would much rather keep my car that I generally like quite a bit, and have Ford come up with a suitable repair for what appears to be a design flaw. If it takes a class action lawsuit to apply the appropriate pressure, what do you care? Why encourage people to sell their cars rather than press Ford to provide a suitable fix? I just don’t understand your position.

His position is if you have one complaint about the car, stop complaining, just sell the car and take the massive loss in depreciation. It’s not logical, I think he’s just taking a trollish position of, “if you don’t like it, get out”.

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