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[dbsb3233]

All of that is part of the education potential BEV owners will need to do. I have no issues with someone saying their vehicle has to make <insert route here> or I can’t buy it as long as it’s a realistic expectation (asking for 600 mile range in -20 F weather isn’t realistic for example). BEVs aren’t for everyone or every situation but they can do just as well as ICE vehicles for most uses

That's why I said if they're in position where they can't use basic functions like using heat and driving the speed limit, then no buy.

Even the suggestion as a "solution" to tight range situations will turn some away. And understandably so.

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[Kamuelaflyer]

That's why I said if they're in position where they can't use basic functions like using heat and driving the speed limit, then no buy.

Even the suggestion as a "solution" to tight range situations will turn some away. And understandably so.

no argument from me Tim. I agree. Wonders never cease buh?

 

[ZSR]

Al that range anxiety is no issue if you could pull up, refuel and 10 min later drive away with 200 miles in the “tank”.
In real everyday use it’s plenty of range. But I am anxious of driving 200 miles, and sit in the car for 40 min to get .... 200?? Miles of juice. If filling the car up would be like a filling an Ice car, range would be waaaay less of an issue. That said souldn’t be the real focus be on how fast you can get 200 miles in the “tank”??

 

[Billyk24]

Al that range anxiety is no issue if you could pull up, refuel and 10 min later drive away with 200 miles in the “tank”.
In real everyday use it’s plenty of range. But I am anxious of driving 200 miles, and sit in the car for 40 min to get .... 200?? Miles of juice. If filling the car up would be like a filling an Ice car, range would be waaaay less of an issue. That saidedeed modern 250 to 350 souldn’t be the real focus be on how fast you can get 200 miles in the “tank”??

Solid state batteries have this potential and should arrive in 4 to 5 years. But, one is going need 150 to 350 kW dcfc chargers. Don't expect politicians to understand this as the state of Michigan is putting in many 62.5 kW chargers.

 

[dbsb3233]

Solid state batteries have this potential and should arrive in 4 to 5 years. But, one is going need 150 to 350 kW dcfc chargers. Don't expect politicians to understand this as the state of Michigan is putting in many 62.5 kW chargers.

Can't help but wonder if some of them are thinking "We want people to stick around town and spend money, so we don't want them charging TOO fast".

But I doubt they really understand it that well. It's most likely just a cost issue.

 

[Gilles]

Can't help but wonder if some of them are thinking "We want people to stick around town and spend money, so we don't want them charging TOO fast".

But I doubt they really understand it that well. It's most likely just a cost issue.

These are the current CCS fast charging sites with at least 120 KW chargers.

I am more concerned about the grid ability to support fast charging volume on busy weekends.
Currently, in Ontario we have Petro Canada with 350 KW chargers (generally 2 per site) and Canadian tires with either 100 or 350 kw chargers (generally 4 per site). That's fine for today's volume of not Tesla (many Tesla new sites in Ontario have 20 chargers per site)
This is the map of Tesla supercharging stations:

 

[engnrng]

Solid state batteries have this potential and should arrive in 4 to 5 years. But, one is going need 150 to 350 kW dcfc chargers. Don't expect politicians to understand this as the state of Michigan is putting in many 62.5 kW chargers.

Sounds like Chargepoint chargers. If installed in "paired" configuration, they can deliver 125 kW if you connect a car to every other one.

 

[engnrng]

It makes sense though. Charging curves exist to protect the battery. They lower the amount of power applied as the battery fills. The more "space" a battery has left, the faster it can fill. The ER battery is bigger, thus more "space" when empty, thus can charge faster early.

The SR battery is smaller, thus it begins its charge curve at the point where the bigger battery has already tapered to 115 kW. (Or likely thereabouts).

The amount of charge (current) per cell is set, so fewer cells means lower maximum charge rate (same current going into each cell). Simple.

 

[Billyk24]

The issue with this is these EV chargers is that they were funded mostly by grants. These folks will not upgrade these EV chargers unless they get "more" grant money. This may or may not occur and if it will, the question becomes when? Better to have it done "right" the first time.

 

[Billyk24]

There still is money left over and additional funds available. Doing it right the first time is the correct way.

 

[Billyk24]

Here: https://www.michigan.gov/egle/0,9429,7-135--547591--,00.html

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