Mach-E GT PE track tested at Willow Springs by RevMatchTV (video)

[Mach1E]

I strongly encourage you to post your own videos and show the vehicle in the way you want it portrayed.

My video is about a vehicle, not any person or group so I don't understand how I'm making anyone look good or bad.

You’re making the car look bad. You took it out in poor conditions then criticize the acceleration, multiple times through the video.

It doesn’t exactly portray a good image for the GTPE.
With a full charge in warm weather it would be entirely different.

Just to be clear though, my comments are tongue in cheek. It is what it is. I’m just poking fun. I am NOT saying you shouldnt have posted. I just wish we had a good weather track video to balance or compare to. May have to wait until spring for that though.

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[Pushrods&Capacitors]

You’re making the car look bad. You took it out in poor conditions then criticize the acceleration, multiple times through the video.

It doesn’t exactly portray a good image for the GTPE.
With a full charge in warm weather it would be entirely different.

Just to be clear though, my comments are tongue in cheek. It is what it is. I’m just poking fun. I am NOT saying you shouldnt have posted. I just wish we had a good weather track video to balance or compare to. May have to wait until spring for that though.

Welcome to the EV version of ICE cars with shitty Density Altitude track runs/lap times, amirite? Just tell the ICE guys that a 60% SOC and 36F temps is like a 6000ft DA run and they’ll all be like “Oh, dang, not bad then.” Or not. ?

 

[revmatchtv]

Welcome to the EV version of ICE cars with shitty Density Altitude track runs/lap times, amirite? Just tell the ICE guys that a 60% SOC and 36F temps is like a 6000ft DA run and they’ll all be like “Oh, dang, not bad then.” Or not. ?

Right?!!

 

[Mach1E]

Welcome to the EV version of ICE cars with shitty Density Altitude track runs/lap times, amirite? Just tell the ICE guys that a 60% SOC and 36F temps is like a 6000ft DA run and they’ll all be like “Oh, dang, not bad then.” Or not. ?

I’m actually surprised car mags haven’t figured out a correction factor for EVs yet. They do DA corrections when posting times for ICE so they can test year round. Same with Dyno testing.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

I’m actually surprised car mags haven’t figured out a correction factor for EVs yet. They do DA corrections when posting times for ICE so they can test year round. Same with Dyno testing.

SAE should already have figured this out to be honest. We shall see.

 

[revmatchtv]

SAE should already have figured this out to be honest. We shall see.

It's likely not very easy as factors such as SOC and ambient temperatrue will mean very different things to different vehicles. The available oxygen is irrelevant to an EV.

The factors that affect any particular EV are handled differently by different manufacturers. It's a combination of hardware and software. An 75% SOC can mean very different things to a Taycan vs a Tesla. A Taycan can do repeated, consistent 0-60 with a draining battery, whereas the Mach-E gets slower. Different cooling systems, battery chemistry, harware, and software all play into how much power will be available.

I'm not an engineer, but I doubt there is a very accurate correction calculation that can be applied universally across all EVs. I'd love to hear an engineer pipe in on this topic.

 

[Mach1E]

It's likely not very easy as factors such as SOC and ambient temperatrue will mean very different things to different vehicles. The available oxygen is irrelevant to an EV.

The factors that affect any particular EV are handled differently by different manufacturers. It's a combination of hardware and software. An 75% SOC can mean very different things to a Taycan vs a Tesla. A Taycan can do repeated, consistent 0-60 with a draining battery, whereas the Mach-E gets slower. Different cooling systems, battery chemistry, harware, and software all play into how much power will be available.

I'm not an engineer, but I doubt there is a very accurate correction calculation that can be applied universally across all EVs. I'd love to hear an engineer pipe in on this topic.

This is true, but it’s also always been a problem for ICE correction factors.

Displacement and forced induction have a HUGE difference in how DA affects vehicles.

I remember a video of a Chevy SS getting beaten repeatedly by a Infiniti G37 sedan…… at 5000 ft. Why? Altitude affects the 6.2L engine more than the 3.7L engine. Fast forward a couple years to an Infinity Q50 with the twin turbo v6 and it would be even worse.

Even though not super accurate, they should be able to come up with some correction factor just by testing the cars in different temperatures.

On a related note- the altitude factor for a BEV should be slightly opposite. Less wind resistance. Only temp should matter.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

It's likely not very easy as factors such as SOC and ambient temperatrue will mean very different things to different vehicles. The available oxygen is irrelevant to an EV.

The factors that affect any particular EV are handled differently by different manufacturers. It's a combination of hardware and software. An 75% SOC can mean very different things to a Taycan vs a Tesla. A Taycan can do repeated, consistent 0-60 with a draining battery, whereas the Mach-E gets slower. Different cooling systems, battery chemistry, harware, and software all play into how much power will be available.

I'm not an engineer, but I doubt there is a very accurate correction calculation that can be applied universally across all EVs. I'd love to hear an engineer pipe in on this topic.

Absolutely correct, but they can offer a generalized guidance rather than the specific correction factors for atmospheric conditions. But SAE isn’t really about doing generalizations so, yeah.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

This is true, but it’s also always been a problem for ICE correction factors.

Displacement and forced induction have a HUGE difference in how DA affects vehicles.

I remember a video of a Chevy SS getting beaten repeatedly by a Infiniti G37 sedan…… at 5000 ft. Why? Altitude affects the 6.2L engine more than the 3.7L engine. Fast forward a couple years to an Infinity Q50 with the twin turbo v6 and it would be even worse.

Even though not super accurate, they should be able to come up with some correction factor just by testing the cars in different temperatures.

On a related note- the altitude factor for a BEV should be slightly opposite. Less wind resistance. Only temp should matter.

? The one test anywhere ever where an SS was ever near that slow. I’m sorry, the VQ37 isn’t some paragon of volumetric efficiency. Something was up with that SS or the launching or something.

And yes to the EVs at altitude. All of the fastest Tesla 3/Y 60-130s are either tuned /unlocked ones in Europe or ones in Colorado running at 5-6000ft elevation and 10,000ft DAs haha. Wonder why?

 

[Mach1E]

Lol, just found this extremely negative article based on this video.

I stand by my earlier comment…. “You’re making the car look bad.”

https://insideevs.com/news/564466/mache-gt-track-power-cuts/amp/

“
Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Experiences Major Power Cuts On Track
It looks the part and goes the part out on the road, but it's not as good around a track, it seems.”

 

[silverelan]

Hey @revmatchtv, nice video of track day with the car. Should be fun to see more content with it both at the track and on the road, especially compared to other EV crossovers. I’d be curious if @benk016 or someone could hook you up with the info you’d need to get the charging updated since you are suffering from the 80% penalty.

 

[nvabill]

That Color! Surely it looks better in person, looks like a taxi cab on video!

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Lol, just found this extremely negative article based on this video.

I stand by my earlier comment…. “You’re making the car look bad.”

https://insideevs.com/news/564466/mache-gt-track-power-cuts/amp/

“
Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Experiences Major Power Cuts On Track
It looks the part and goes the part out on the road, but it's not as good around a track, it seems.”

“Performance Edition” ???‍ ??

 

[revmatchtv]

That Color! Surely it looks better in person, looks like a taxi cab on video!

It looks pretty good in person I think. It was very overcast that day and I did a slight bit of color grading on the video.

 

[revmatchtv]

Lol, just found this extremely negative article based on this video.

I stand by my earlier comment…. “You’re making the car look bad.”

Your earlier quote was actually:

I don't work for Ford or any manufacturer, so my job isn't to point out only the positive things about a vehicle. I'm not a Tesla fan boy. I'm not a Ford fan boy. I find positives and negatives in every vehicle I've owned or driven. I enjoy and have owned many different brands.

Feel free to ignore content and comments you don't like. My video isn't about you, or any person or group. It's about a vehicle that I very much enjoy, despite its flaws.

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