Phone as a key for second user?

[RyZt]

sure this has been asked but what happens when 2 phones are setup and they both enter the car does it ask you which one is the driver?

Previously there was a discussion. Some one says Mach E decides based on who approached from the driver door.

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[mikeho]

Previously there was a discussion. Some one says Mach E decides based on who approached from the driver door.

They say this but I haven't been able to see this by observation. To me, it seems like whoever got to the car first.

 

[dliunatic]

Tested the approaching with 2 PaaKs a few times and it worked, but not consistently. If we went out of range then back towards the MME it seemed to recognize the correct driver. If we just get out of the MME while still in range, locked it, and then switched drivers to open it then it didn't seem to get that part right. Will have to test it more when the wife is willing to play ?

 

[mikeho]

So one thing I noticed is that I think the PaaK was getting confused between the phones if the FordPass user was the same, even if the phones were assigned different profiles in the car. I had a problem where even my wife's backup start code was overridden by my own and it almost left her stranded.

I've created a FordPass account for her and set up her PaaK again, so we'll see if it works better this time.

 

[dliunatic]

So one thing I noticed is that I think the PaaK was getting confused between the phones if the FordPass user was the same, even if the phones were assigned different profiles in the car. I had a problem where even my wife's backup start code was overridden by my own and it almost left her stranded.

I've created a FordPass account for her and set up her PaaK again, so we'll see if it works better this time.

Yep the 2 account approach is what I have with the wife. PaaK has been working better this week with both of us testing more, but I did notice some wonkiness where I was driving and she was in the back seat. When I left the car it locked it when I walked away and didn't recognize the she was still in it with the PaaK. Not sure if that was an isolated instance so will need to test that again.

 

[DBC]

When dealing with PAAK, keep in mind that it is always going to be problematic because Bluetooth was never designed for the purposes to which it is being put. Having more than one device just makes it more complex and problematic. Anything you can do to keep the setup simpler will help.

 

[mikeho]

When dealing with PAAK, keep in mind that it is always going to be problematic because Bluetooth was never designed for the purposes to which it is being put. Having more than one device just makes it more complex and problematic. Anything you can do to keep the setup simpler will help.

Like giving us two keys and using PaaK as a backup? ?

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

When dealing with PAAK, keep in mind that it is always going to be problematic because Bluetooth was never designed for the purposes to which it is being put. Having more than one device just makes it more complex and problematic. Anything you can do to keep the setup simpler will help.

Two keyfobs. Not an ideal solution for many. But that's what I'll do. Considering I'm driving a 2006 Tacoma atm, there's little likelihood I'll miss something I've never had. Again, not the most ideal solution though.

 

[jhalkias]

I will wait and see when I get mine, but PAAK is really not too great on the loaner Mach E my dealer gave me this week. Total hit an miss if it works or not. And that is pretty disappointing, and leaves you feeling pretty insecure if you don't want to carry the fob. I haven't programmed a door and start code into this loaner, but I will in mine.

This morning I went out to the car without the fob to put some stuff in before leaving. Had my phone. Car would not unlock. loaded Fordpass. Still no go - UNTIL I pressed the unlock button on the FordPass screen.

 

[mikeho]

One thing I've noticed is that it's getting more reliable, despite both my wife and I driving the car at separate times. So I used to build iOS apps and one thing that an app developer can't control is when the OS allows the app to execute tasks in the background. In essence, you have to train the OS to give the app more priority. As I drive more daily, I think that's why it's getting better, but has anyone else seen the same

 

[jcharnet]

So, what happens when more than one PAAK approaches the car? Is it randomly picking a phone?
And if it picks the “wrong” phone, how do you switch? Just toggle the profile?

 

[mikeho]

So, what happens when more than one PAAK approaches the car? Is it randomly picking a phone?
And if it picks the “wrong” phone, how do you switch? Just toggle the profile?

So I thought it was whichever phone the car detected first, but I haven't tried getting into the car with my wife since last weekend, so I'll try again tomorrow to see. People here on the forums have said that the car has multiple bluetooth sensors, so it should know which one approaches the door.

That said, I usually open the door for my wife and then get into the driver's side, so that might be a problem...

 

[dliunatic]

One thing I've noticed is that it's getting more reliable, despite both my wife and I driving the car at separate times. So I used to build iOS apps and one thing that an app developer can't control is when the OS allows the app to execute tasks in the background. In essence, you have to train the OS to give the app more priority. As I drive more daily, I think that's why it's getting better, but has anyone else seen the same

Yep, I noticed an improvement this week as well, but then there's still the occasional door button smashing as it doesn't seem to recognize either my wife or my PaaK.

So, what happens when more than one PAAK approaches the car? Is it randomly picking a phone?
And if it picks the “wrong” phone, how do you switch? Just toggle the profile?

I think it does seem to notice proximity to driver side. For instance, today my wife unlocked the car by getting to it first and going to the passenger side, and then I went from the passenger back side to the driver seat and started the car... Even with all that it recognized my profile as the driver which was great. Not sure how much of that is my wife's PaaK maybe just not being as responsive though... there was definitely a separate time last weekend where I got out of the car to run an errand leaving her and the kiddo in it. It locked her in even though she has her PaaK on her...

Worst case, you can manually select the profile at any point within the MME screen.

 

[mikeho]

One thing that seemed to have helped stability is that I now have a separate FordPass account for me and my wife. Having us on the same account seemed to have caused all sort of confusion with backup start codes being overridden and PaaKs not responding.

 

[dtbaker61]

Worked for me. However, many of the FordPass features are a bit buggy. You may just need to try it again. If that doesn't work, try removing the app from the phone, reinstalling it and activating PAAK again.

I found I had to really scrub both the MME and the phone to remove everything, re-install FordPass, and re-configure from a blank slate.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...-android-9-to-enable-a-backup-startcode.4544/

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