Possibly Buy Mach-E Premium RWD

[Mr88cet]

California Route 1

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[Mr88cet]

I have a 2022 CR1 ER. The only main issue I have had issues is with level 2 charging in a garage in Texas summer. Not sure if it is specific to my car but the charging rate is reduced to 5KW both with tesla wall charger and ford mobile.

I was about to say that that would be a total showstopper for me, since I live in Texas and it gets pretty screaming hot here (104 today).

However, thinking about it again, the charger in our garage is only about 5.3KW (24A — code deration required for 30A breaker), so actually, that would be about right!

 

[Mr88cet]

We are strongly considering buying a Mach-E Premium RWD (big battery). We’ll be asking the salesman these questions …

(Sorry, I thought I asked this follow-on question earlier, but I can’t seem to find it in the thread if so.)

The salesman gave me an answer to one of my questions that seems … unlikely. I suspect I didn’t ask the question clearly, or I misinterpreted his answer.

Scenario:
— You’re in stop&go traffic.
— Adaptive cruise control halts your Mach-E because the car in front of stops.
— After a short time, the car in front of you moves forward.
— Does the Mach-E automatically move forward in response? Do you have to tap the accelerator or some button, to resume?

The salesman’s reply (again, not what I expected) was that, once you come to a stop, the Mach-E completely cancels and resets all of your adaptive cruise-control settings. You have to turn the whole system back on, set a new target speed and so forth.

 

[RWD_ER]

Re: the range it's all over the place. I've gotten 360+ in the Spring when new and now in this heat it's erratic - showing sometimes 240 range up to 300, but far less than a few months ago. Similar driving style and city/highway ratio

 

[Tampamike]

(Sorry, I thought I asked this follow-on question earlier, but I can’t seem to find it in the thread if so.)

The salesman gave me an answer to one of my questions that seems … unlikely. I suspect I didn’t ask the question clearly, or I misinterpreted his answer.

Scenario:
— You’re in stop&go traffic.
— Adaptive cruise control halts your Mach-E because the car in front of stops.
— After a short time, the car in front of you moves forward.
— Does the Mach-E automatically move forward in response? Do you have to tap the accelerator or some button, to resume?

The salesman’s replay (again, not what I expected) was that, once you come to a stop, the Mach-E completely cancels and resets all of your adaptive cruise-control settings. You have to turn the whole system back on, set a new target speed and so forth.

It doesn’t completely disengage. It will either show you “auto-resume” and it will or “press restart to resume” and it will after you do.

As far as time to DCFC, I usually say that it takes about 35 minutes to go from 20% to 80%. The time difference on a 150kw EA charger vs. a 350kw is only a minute or two. The higher kw units will deliver a slightly higher charge rate at the beginning and then quickly taper off to meet the cars requested charge rate.

Currently, on my usual highway route at speeds of 79, an 80% charge yields about 200 mile range. Speed kills. You’ll go further on the back roads at lower speeds. A good estimate is about 2.5 miles/kw at high speeds and 3.0 at 60 - 65.

 

[Mr88cet]

It doesn’t completely disengage. ...

As far as time to DCFC, I usually say that it takes about 35 minutes to go from 20% to 80%. The time difference on a 150kw EA charger vs. a 350kw is only a minute or two. …

Currently, on my usual highway route at speeds of 79, an 80% charge yields about 200 mile range. …

“All of the above” is pretty much what I would have presumed, but great to hear it confirmed from an actual Mach-E owner! Thanks. However, the part that I wasn’t so sure about was 150KW vs. 350KW. Might make more difference for a Taycan. Great info!

 

[sdoo25]

(Sorry, I thought I asked this follow-on question earlier, but I can’t seem to find it in the thread if so.)

The salesman gave me an answer to one of my questions that seems … unlikely. I suspect I didn’t ask the question clearly, or I misinterpreted his answer.

Scenario:
— You’re in stop&go traffic.
— Adaptive cruise control halts your Mach-E because the car in front of stops.
— After a short time, the car in front of you moves forward.
— Does the Mach-E automatically move forward in response? Do you have to tap the accelerator or some button, to resume?

The salesman’s replay (again, not what I expected) was that, once you come to a stop, the Mach-E completely cancels and resets all of your adaptive cruise-control settings. You have to turn the whole system back on, set a new target speed and so forth.

I can confirm that if you're using BlueCruise/Adaptive Cruise on the Highway, it will come to a complete stop and then restart when traffic does without touching the steering wheel or accelerator.

 

[Tampamike]

“All of the above” is pretty much what I would have presumed, but great to hear it confirmed from an actual Mach-E owner! Thanks. However, the part that I wasn’t so sure about was 150KW vs. 350KW. Might make more difference for a Taycan. Great info!

Will definitely make a difference for a Taycan, …. or a Hyundai or a Kia or, … some others as they all can charge at higher rates on the 350kw chargeres due to a higher voltage battery (800v, I believe). Of course this only helps if you can plug into the higher kw charger with a cord that can support the higher amp delivery. The MachE is a 400v battery limited to a 150kw charge rate.

 

[MyMach-E is a Boat Anchor]

Since I live in a humid continental climate, and have a 21 CR1 RWD Extended Range Battery, my practical range is 200 miles with a 100% charge. The nearest metro area is 120 miles away and I cannot drive there and return home on a single charge. Maybe if I drove 55 mph on the interstate, I could barely do it, but everyone would be cursing me.

 

[johnnycombo]

As of right now, the Mach-E’s main competition is the Q4 eTron. Its main advantage is its smooth and quiet ride, and its exceptionally-well-designed interior and instrument panel. The Mach-E’s main advantage it the obvious one: Access to the Tesla Supercharger network. However, BlueCruise is another sizable advantage.

Any comments on that?

The Blue Cruise/lane centering is why I bought the Mach E. The system works really well, when a highway isn't Blue Cruise rated the lane centering still works. This system takes a lot of stress out of a long drive and gives you added safety on short drives. The main concern is the charging network, as a whole it needs regulation for dependability and expansion.
This is home charging for my F-150 lightning. The Mach-E cost to drive does better.

 

[Colorado Guy]

We are strongly considering buying a Mach-E Premium RWD (big battery). We’ll be asking the salesman these questions shortly, but I’d really like to hear answers from actual owners like you folks! If any of you have a few moments to answer these questions we’d much appreciate your time. Thanks!

• Realistically, how much range can we expect at temperatures of 40F, 72F, and 100F, with reasonable levels of climate control and pretty-conservative driving style?
• We can use Tesla Superchargers now (if we have the NACS adaptor), right? Does the adaptor limit charging speed?
• We can still use Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc, right? That is, Ford striking a deal with Tesla didn’t PO Electrify America or something crazy like that, right?
• How hot does the frunk get in 95-degree weather? On the one hand, it’s not ventilated, so it should be hotter than outside, but on the other hand, it’s not exposed to sunlight either, so hmmm…
• Please tell me about the reliability or not of your Mach-E…?

Thanks again!

I've had my RWD Prem Extended range for a couple of months, and I gotta say I've been grinning from ear to ear the whole time - I think you'll love it. I've had no reliability issues. I had the same questions regarding range, and after having it for 1500 miles or so I can only say I haven't had range anxiety once - it has simply not ever come close to being an issue. I charge it overnight at home whenever I get below 50% or so. In Colorado our summer off peak rate is .12cents/kwh - waaay cheaper than gas. I've charged on different brands of public chargers a few times just to see how they worked, no issues. Still waiting on my adapter from Ford so I haven't used a Tesla station yet.

My biggest complaints are that the rear hatch buttons are finicky, the app is a bit sparse, and the lack of a built in shade for the sunroof (I've covered it until winter with an off market shade.) But hands down my favorite car I've ever owned. Good luck!

 

[Tom L]

We are strongly considering buying a Mach-E Premium RWD (big battery). We’ll be asking the salesman these questions shortly, but I’d really like to hear answers from actual owners like you folks! If any of you have a few moments to answer these questions we’d much appreciate your time. Thanks!

• Realistically, how much range can we expect at temperatures of 40F, 72F, and 100F, with reasonable levels of climate control and pretty-conservative driving style?
• We can use Tesla Superchargers now (if we have the NACS adaptor), right? Does the adaptor limit charging speed?
• We can still use Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc, right? That is, Ford striking a deal with Tesla didn’t PO Electrify America or something crazy like that, right?
• How hot does the frunk get in 95-degree weather? On the one hand, it’s not ventilated, so it should be hotter than outside, but on the other hand, it’s not exposed to sunlight either, so hmmm…
• Please tell me about the reliability or not of your Mach-E…?

Thanks again!

I also have a 2022 CR1 XR driven in WI for 43,000 miles. We’ve used DC charging maybe 6 times. Range estimates vary for many reasons but I drive conservatively. About 70% of my driving is rural roads at 55 mph and 10% freeway driving at 70 mph. Under ideal conditions last week my range after charging at home to 100% was 352 miles.

We are strongly considering buying a Mach-E Premium RWD (big battery). We’ll be asking the salesman these questions shortly, but I’d really like to hear answers from actual owners like you folks! If any of you have a few moments to answer these questions we’d much appreciate your time. Thanks!

• Realistically, how much range can we expect at temperatures of 40F, 72F, and 100F, with reasonable levels of climate control and pretty-conservative driving style?
• We can use Tesla Superchargers now (if we have the NACS adaptor), right? Does the adaptor limit charging speed?
• We can still use Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc, right? That is, Ford striking a deal with Tesla didn’t PO Electrify America or something crazy like that, right?
• How hot does the frunk get in 95-degree weather? On the one hand, it’s not ventilated, so it should be hotter than outside, but on the other hand, it’s not exposed to sunlight either, so hmmm…
• Please tell me about the reliability or not of your Mach-E…?

Thanks again!

i also have a 2022 CR1 RWD XR. Driven 43,000 miles in WI. Range varies for many reasons so comparisond

 

[Mr88cet]

That’s all great to hear, Colorado Guy! Thanks for the reply.

 

[Mr Breeze]

• We can use Tesla Superchargers now (if we have the NACS adaptor), right? Does the adaptor limit charging speed?

Some people have reported that EA is quicker. But Tesla is fast enough.

• We can still use Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc, right? That is, Ford striking a deal with Tesla didn’t PO Electrify America or something crazy like that, right?

No one has gone away in spite.…

• Please tell me about the reliability or not of your Mach-E…?

15 months in and no problems (past a few minor annoyances.).

So I recently purchased a rear wheel drive premium with the big battery and the range is really good. Its not like Tesla telling you 340 and only going 325. In this heat its easy to get 320 miles on a full charge. Honestly I have never used the frunk but I can tell you the Mach E sitting out in the sun all day is cooler inside than my model Y with a roof shade outside for 15 minutes. Im giving you my honest opinion here, my 24 model Y RWD makes driving seamless because the tech, the app is solid. The car is stress free, the biggest issue with the Tesla is getting use to operating the entire car from a computer screen. The mach E is more fun and comfortable to drive but the issue with Ford is the tech is antiquated compared with Tesla. The app is quirky and the car is not as user friendly as the Tesla. Having said that though if this is your first EV the Mach E will be a better experience for you because it is familiar to an ice vehicle with most controls the same and you won’t have to worry about the price going down 10k in a couple weeks because the owners a jerk.

 

[Mr88cet]

Great impressions, Mr Breeze. Thanks!

Neither my wife nor I understand what Tesla calls their “minimalist” vibe. As far as we can tell, it’s just “cheapness made cool by hype.” Nobody would actually want it if Tesla hadn’t told them they wanted it. My opinion… That’s the main reason we’re not getting a Tesla.

Anyway, could you please tell me a little more about your comment that, “the app is quirky and the car is not as user friendly as the Tesla,” especially the latter?

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