Real world range

[SynergyMachE_GT]

I'd love an M5 or AMG GT R some day! Very cool. 240 miles off 90% is pretty solid. In terms of conditioning, do you mean just setting departure and comfort time so that the car heats up while still plugged in?

I personally do 20-30 miles a day, so I am always in Unbridled. It's a real roller coaster of a car, I love it so much.

It feels like we are driving the future. I believe once cost of entry lowers for the average consumer and ranges climb even further with some of the battery tech coming out soon, EVs will take off even further. I also believe longevity for vehicles will be thought of very differently in the future. There are so many less parts to break, and batteries typically just degrade rather than stop working, the average person could literally drive their vehicle for decades and with limited maintenance. They would simply upgrade if they can no longer meet their daily range needs, or want the latest tech, or a new aesthetic.

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[DarkRelms]

I just picked up my GT 2 weeks ago. I have noticed that at 55 MPH i get around 2.9 to 3 M/Kh and at 65 around 2.6-2.8.

 

[Ljames]

I'd love an M5 or AMG GT R some day! Very cool. 240 miles off 90% is pretty solid. In terms of conditioning, do you mean just setting departure and comfort time so that the car heats up while still plugged in?

I personally do 20-30 miles a day, so I am always in Unbridled. It's a real roller coaster of a car, I love it so much.

It feels like we are driving the future. I believe once cost of entry lowers for the average consumer and ranges climb even further with some of the battery tech coming out soon, EVs will take off even further. I also believe longevity for vehicles will be thought of very differently in the future. There are so many less parts to break, and batteries typically just degrade rather than stop working, the average person could literally drive their vehicle for decades and with limited maintenance. They would simply upgrade if they can no longer meet their daily range needs, or want the latest tech, or a new aesthetic.

Agree. As you mentioned for EVs to go main stream. 1) lower price (although they seem comparable to current luxury ICE vehicles now). 2) solve two of these issues (longer range, more charging stations, or quicker charging)

 

[Auto Motive]

I just picked up my GT 2 weeks ago. I have noticed that at 55 MPH i get around 2.9 to 3 M/Kh and at 65 around 2.6-2.8.

Our area speed limit at 50 and under. Heading 9 mile to pick up grand kid get s 3.0 to 3.7 summer. Winter 2.5 to 3.0. Usually run ac or heated seats.

 

[Teslaeata]

I have a 23 GTPE in Michigan . What I do is
Precondition it every morning . It’s plugged in to my level 2 . It not only precondition the inside but also the battery . I drive to multiple different hospitals . I never exceed 70 and always have cruise and blue cruise . I average 3.1mikes per khw. I set the temp inside the car at 74 and it’s comfy for me . Obviously if I drive on the sportiest setting that number drops . When the temp was 24 degrees F I was averaging 240 at 90 % charge . It’s a fantastic EV . Gives me the same thrills as my M5 comp but more quite after a long day . Hope that helps

That compares well with my experience.

 

[George Knighton]

I've noticed that my GTPE is very sensitive to driving styles. 2.9 mi/kWh - 3.7 mi/kWh is what I have experienced so far.

That's a big range.

 

[Auto Motive]

I've noticed that my GTPE is very sensitive to driving styles. 2.9 mi/kWh - 3.7 mi/kWh is what I have experienced so far.

That's a big range.

When I picked up my GTPE the sale guys raced it on the weekend. Ran 1.5kwh 100pct charged showed 200 mile in 70 deg weather. Odometer had 39 miles and title showed 2. Believe me the manager knew I was pissed and said nothing, gave poor review on every social media chat room with explanation and never went back. I should had complained to Ford but wife didnt want those guys coming at us for retribution if they got fired. They had our address. We're in our 70s and seniors are easy prey.

 

[George Knighton]

When I picked up my GTPE the sale guys raced it on the weekend.

I'm sorry to hear that. These are terrible race cars.

Most race tracks are about 2 ½ miles, and you won't have full power for the 1:30 you need to get around a race course. (More or less. Course designs can vary widely, and VIR is a lot more than 2 ½ miles.)

And as the battery charge drops, the car tries to keep you out of trouble by reducing power further.

These are very nice, pleasant and powerful cars to tool around in but they are definitely not race cars.

Sorry you experienced that.

 

[JamesStew71]

Welcome to your new Mach-e! I love mine after a year, but the electric experience took a mindset change. Here’s the link to the forum’s best guide on cold weather strategies.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/mach-lees-cold-weather-charging-strategies.24548/post-700338

Also, you might choose to reduce your speed to get more efficiency. It makes a big difference if you are digging for extra mileage. If you are not, well you bought a Mustang, enjoy it!

68 is most efficency we have found

 

[DaMeatMan]

I bought a 2021 Mach-e GT just over a week ago. Notice I'm getting closer to 190-210 miles, estimated by determining how many miles made on a charge percentage then extrapolated out to 100%. It's been in the 40s here so perhaps that's part of it. This car only has ~12k miles on it.

I had the car in Whisper mode and adaptive cruise control set to 79. 1 strong pull on the first on ramp but that was it. I know I would never see the full 270 but figure it'd be more like 230-240. I assume this isnt too crazy or is it way out of spec? I do acknowledge cold can hurt efficiency though I wouldn't think 40s is that bad. January may be rough when we get negative.

Thankfully I don't do a ton of mileage day to day, but it'd still be nice to know it's there when needed.

I believe the PTC heater is 7Kw, so unless you have the heat completely off, your going to be dumping a tremendous amount of energy into the cabin to keep you comfortable, that would otherwise have gone into moving you forward.

Even with heat completely off, you still cannot escape the reality of today's battery chemistries that do lose energy density simply due to the temperature. I think the ideal temps for the battery to achieve their rated power capacity is at around room temperature or slightly warmer. So while 4f doesn't seem all that cold, it is pretty far removed from ideal operating temps and unless you precondition the battery, your going to take a hit due to less available energy from the cells due to the cold.

Lastly there is speed... it ain't your friend here when it comes to range. The nore you drive the vehicle the more you will learn to pay more attention to the miles per kwhr consumption for your trip. In order achieve rated EPA range, you need to shoot for 3 miles per kwhr. 3 miles per kwr x 91 kwhr usable capacity at ideal temp = aprox 270 miles.

 

[silverelan]

200 miles of winter range and 240 miles in the summer is pretty normal for the GT. I set the cruise control to 72mph which is just fast enough that I don’t lose my sanity.

EV drivers are hilarious because we drive like a scalded cat around town but we’re the right lane slow pokes on a road trip.

If the MME charged faster we’d set the cruise control for closer to 80mph than 70.

 

[George Knighton]

Came to the GTPE from a Chevy Bolt so I smile sometimes when I see people complain about slow charging.

160 kW vs my old 55 kW max. Sounds great to me.

Had to charge to 100% for an unusual day, and car said 258 miles.

It was one of those unusual days in the season when it reached 60 degrees.

On occasion have reached 3.7 mi/kWh for about 120 mile trips, so the car is capable of going over 300 in ideal situations.

 

[Dr.Saleh]

I'd love an M5 or AMG GT R some day! Very cool. 240 miles off 90% is pretty solid. In terms of conditioning, do you mean just setting departure and comfort time so that the car heats up while still plugged in?

I personally do 20-30 miles a day, so I am always in Unbridled. It's a real roller coaster of a car, I love it so much.

It feels like we are driving the future. I believe once cost of entry lowers for the average consumer and ranges climb even further with some of the battery tech coming out soon, EVs will take off even further. I also believe longevity for vehicles will be thought of very differently in the future. There are so many less parts to break, and batteries typically just degrade rather than stop working, the average person could literally drive their vehicle for decades and with limited maintenance. They would simply upgrade if they can no longer meet their daily range needs, or want the latest tech, or a new aesthetic.

Yes I set me departure time everyday same time . It makes a difference specially in Michigan . Only thing I need to do is get all season tires . But I enjoy when it slides a bit lol

 

[Rt1AWD]

After slightly less then 2 years my car charges only to around 87.5 kWh and then it stops charging

 

[George Knighton]

After slightly less then 2 years my car charges only to around 87.5 kWh and then it stops charging

That's interesting, and surprising. How did you measure this, if you don't mind?

A popular YouTube personality in the Bolt community didn't get called in for his battery replacement until 154,000 miles and six years of abuse, including frequent DC charging and drains to a very low state of charge.

He knew his viewers would be interested so he drained down to zero and DC charged to full.

He lost only 10% of his OEM 60 kWh battery in all those miles, with all that abuse.

So I'm surprised that a Mach-E with a similarly conventional NMC formula would lose that much capacity so early in its career.

However, we should mention that Tesla NMC batteries seem to lose about 10% of their capacities in the early stages of ownership, and then slow the rate of depletion.

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