Stop driving your EV immediately

[blkadr08]

Coil or coal?

I burned up the coil on my 66 Mustang once. I don’t think it had much impact on the environment though.

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[nvabill]

glaciologist here. please stop.

Stop what? ?

 

[AliRafiee]

Coil or coal?

Fixed. I suck at spelling. ?

But why?

Feels more fun.

 

[generaltso]

Feels more fun.

I‘m not sure everyone would agree.

 

[AliRafiee]

I‘m not sure everyone would agree.

You can never make everyone happy.
The ones that do, are having a healthy discussion about it.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

Let's be honest. If we really care, we would go nuclear and be done with it. But we're more interested in virtual signaling.

 

[AliRafiee]

We use a lot of hydro electric here in Washington. There is some pushback on that because of messing up salmon habitat. But that’s a different story.

I love this video and send it to people that say EVs pollute more than gas cars.

 

[DennisD]

You can never make everyone happy.
The ones that do, are having a healthy discussion about it.

I am on the same page as you. Climate Change/Global Warming has been known to exist at least 50 years ago and some people STILL have their head up their a** or they just don't care.

I personally feel that this is the most pressing issue at hand but others see it as a financial cost factor (which is ironic that it is costing more to do nothing) and it seems defeating.

In any event, I just wanted to let you know that I am with you and if you can change just one mind (which I doubt by now), Godspeed!!!

Btw, I don't think it is nice to comment on people's spelling. Just my two cents.

 

[AKgrampy]

Not to be pedantic (ok, to be pedantic ?) having your own solar doesn’t mean that your EV doesn’t pollute at the source of power generation. Where were all the components sourced from and how was the power at those sources generated? How were those components transported? ?

Sure and I do not want to get into a crazy debate but there has to be a baseline. Coal, fuel (other than NG), and fuel deliveries to gas stations all have their own contributions. But from that baseline, obviously, EV’s are less polluting but still not zero. That being said I was just being a bit cynical based on the topic. I actually get tired of blaming every problem in the world on ICE vehicles.

 

[stealthytolkien]

Drive what you like. Eat what you like. To hell with the future generations. With the amount of microplastics we consume today, our future generations’ (lungs and guts) will have plenty of e-waste they can inhale, cook, eat, and digest just fine! They’ll be alright.

 

[AKgrampy]

If you search Wikipedia for power stations in your state, you can see how much of your state's power generation is based on carbon fuel.

Most of the States don't use much coal; however, natural gas is still a popular source of power. In the Old Dominion, only 3% of power is generated from coal.

But we're still about 55% natural gas. 30% is from the nuclear power stations.

4% solar, 4% biomass, 2% hydro. The hydro station in Wise Co is proving to be quite viable, and I think we will see more of that. Solar is burgeoning, but developing solar requires acreage that communities are not willing to give up.

West Virginia is the worst for modern power generation, where 89% of power continues to be generated with coal. They have experimented with hydro, and it is working out well but requires money to continue to build.

In California, less than 1% of its power generation is coal. But California has a totally different problem inasmuch as 30% of its power must be imported from other states.

The legacies of a federalist constitution allow states to set up the equivalent of crown monopolies, and the states decide for themselves how their grid is supplied and designed. States are also allowed to set up regional cooperatives between several states.

This might be something we have to think about for the future. What we call the "Commerce Clause" might have to be used to cause the federal government to integrate everything into a national, more secure and more ecologically friendly power grid.

I would be fine with 100% nuclear.

 

[Shayne]

All you guys with your coal burning cars are causing all of this.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/01/1215141574/antarctica-iceberg-a23a-location

1 ton is 907 Kg and the density of ice is 920 kg/m3. A trillion is a big round number and not sure how accurate the article is but you can calculate volume from weight. 1,000,000,000,000 tons would be about 10 km x 10 km x 10 km. 50 Km x 50 Km (30 miles) at his noted 1200 ft (0.36km) thick. Big patch of floating ice it is. Thanks for the title heads up but I won't be driving my EV around there so I should be OK

 

[nvabill]

We use a lot of hydro electric here in Washington. There is some pushback on that because of messing up salmon habitat. But that’s a different story.

I love this video and send it to people that say EVs pollute more than gas cars.

I like this video which actually shows Hybrid vehicles to be better for the environment than pure EV.

 

[Jimrpa]

To be pedantic, ? please inform us on what source of power generation does not pollute?

It really isn't a question of "does it pollute" but rather the amount they pollute. While it is true that to make said panels will create pollution by the manufacturing process, the lifespan of the panels can go on for years (up to 25 in most cases) without a single "drop" of pollution. That is a nice trade off IMO.

To get into the weeds, pollution exists both naturally and manmade. If you throw noise pollution into the mix, one could argue that solar is almost pollution free in that regard whereas ICE is always polluting.

So people that say Solar Panels don't create pollution are wrong is like saying hard working people are lazy when they are sleeping. ? While one could be "pedantic" on their description of not always working hard, for the most part more people than not understand the true meaning of working hard and wouldn't split hairs on that part. ?

Reread the original statement I was commenting on ? I don't believe I made any comments whether solar panels themselves produce pollution.

 

[Jimrpa]

Sure and I do not want to get into a crazy debate but there has to be a baseline. Coal, fuel (other than NG), and fuel deliveries to gas stations all have their own contributions. But from that baseline, obviously, EV’s are less polluting but still not zero. That being said I was just being a bit cynical based on the topic. I actually get tired of blaming every problem in the world on ICE vehicles.

I agree with you. I was being a bit silly when I pointed out that people with solar systems "aren't polluting". Theoretically, the production chains of all components of those solar systems are very likely to have some components that pollute. I just find it fun to point that out to some people who believe that possessing a solar system is some form of "virtue signaling". Mind you, I do like it whenever people take steps to reduce their dependence on pollution generating systems, and when they try to take steps to more renewable resources.

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