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Just back from my test drive. I didn’t want to waste my hour playing around with the settings and the screen, I just wanted to experience the drive as much as possible, so there are bound to be a few more HMI pros and cons in time.


Cons:

Brakes - nothing, nothing, everything. Really not good in traffic. Nauseating. Hopefully this is just a case of the brakes needing to break in, but if not it’s going to take some getting used to... super sensitive when they finally engaged.

Regen - to strong for my liking... I would like to be able to adjust its strength. Unfortunately if you turn it off, then you’re playing duck duck goose with the brakes... I’m hoping Ford can offer something OTA to address this and the brakes and together, they make traffic unpleasant.

Auto Hold - Pulling away with it engaged is just awful. Jolt and go. It sucks... turn it off.

HVAC - controls on the touch screen don’t really work... felt dangerous trying to adjust while driving. You have to look really far down the screen and play around with small buttons and slider... not good. Needs to be easier to do while driving, but not sure they can fix that OTA.


Pros:

Steering feedback - probably the best I’ve ever experienced. The ratio seems spot on. Tiny bit of understeer on tight corners which is fun. Love the actual steering wheel itself too... thicker than I was expecting. It compliments the weight of the car, which you can feel.

Ride dynamics - fantastic. All the talk of springy suspension had me worried, but it felt very composed. No noticeable body roll, really comes into its own in the bends. Tiny bit bounce on one particularly poor patch of road, but only at higher speeds. On the same road in other cars I’ve driven (Mazda CX-5, Audi A4) you get more severe thuds which make you grimace and wonder if you still have an undercarriage... so in this instance, I prefer a bit of bounce.

Really enjoyed Whisper which I thought I’d never use. Preferred unbridled on the motor way and whisper in the city which is probably the opposite of what Ford intended, but different strokes. Throttle tip in ok unbridled was too aggressive for the city traffic... but I do love it’s aggression.

Loved the ride height. Looks like it should be low from the outside, but feels nice and high in the drivers seat

Space - so much space. Felt like I could’ve swum around it. My knee was okay, close to the screen, but thankfully not touching. The rear passenger space is fantastic. Great for the child seat. My little ones feet are normally all over the back of the front passenger seat, but she couldn’t reach it... huge plus since she refuses to listen when I tell her not to put her grubby shoes on it.

Speed and acceleration - Considering I was in the slowest model (SR RWD), I’m probably going to be slightly intimidated by the AWD ER... it really has good get up and go. You don’t notice the speed... this could be both pro and con.

I feel like I need to mention the steering and handling again, I’m actually blown away.

Wish I had more time with it. But, thankfully, I won’t be cancelling my order.
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and also in Apple Store too
How do you download it please? My version is 3.19 but I can't find anywhere in that app to update it. When I go onto the Apple App Store and search for Ford Pass the only option is "open" and I get straight back into version 3.19. Frustrating!.
 

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Just back from my test drive. I didn’t want to waste my hour playing around with the settings and the screen, I just wanted to experience the drive as much as possible, so there are bound to be a few more HMI pros and cons in time.


Cons:

Brakes - nothing, nothing, everything. Really not good in traffic. Nauseating. Hopefully this is just a case of the brakes needing to break in, but if not it’s going to take some getting used to... super sensitive when they finally engaged.

Regen - to strong for my liking... I would like to be able to adjust its strength. Unfortunately if you turn it off, then you’re playing duck duck goose with the brakes... I’m hoping Ford can offer something OTA to address this and the brakes and together, they make traffic unpleasant.

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I feel like I need to mention the steering and handling again, I’m actually blown away.

Wish I had more time with it. But, thankfully, I won’t be cancelling my order.
I thought you could adjust in it the settings for the level but not easily switch between levels.???

How do you download it please? My version is 3.19 but I can't find anywhere in that app to update it. When I go onto the Apple App Store and search for Ford Pass the only option is "open" and I get straight back into version 3.19. Frustrating!.
Easy way is go to App Store, search on Ford Pass and then you should get an Update button. It takes a while but will update
 


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I thought you could adjust in it the settings for the level but not easily switch between levels.???



Easy way is go to App Store, search on Ford Pass and then you should get an Update button. It takes a while but will update
Thanks - I'll give it a go.
 

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I thought you could adjust in it the settings for the level but not easily switch between levels.???



Easy way is go to App Store, search on Ford Pass and then you should get an Update button. It takes a while but will update
Cheers. I worked. I ignored "Open" and went into the app and once in I had the "update" option. Thanks again.
 
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I thought you could adjust in it the settings for the level but not easily switch between levels.???
Not to my knowledge... but I’d happily be proved wrong! If so, fantastic... and it would serve me right for not spending more time in the settings.
 

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Not to my knowledge... but I’d happily be proved wrong! If so, fantastic... and it would serve me right for not spending more time in the settings.
I feel pretty sure I’ve seen a video where they change the level of the regen braking in the settings!
 

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I think I only got most of this data after I linked the Ford Pass App to my VIN and possibly even some of it after activating the car. This kind of makes sense as much of this data comes from the car. Of course It might come from the car anyway and be stored in the Ford cloud but I didn't notice this until @stesir did his great work.
Hi @jongodfrey

This and your subsequent updates look really interesting!

I have now linked my VIN to my "Ford Account" and also downloaded the Ford Pass App and linked my VIN to this. Having done this, and with the new "dashboard" I feel I am getting somewhere and there might be a real car at the end of this ....... hopefully a RWD ER in Rapid Red ?

I was thinking of thinking of setting up a profile (either from the Ford Pass App or the Ford Dashboard) but wasn't sure whether this might cause any issues later down the line.

I noticed it says this goes via the Remote Vehicle Setup - would I need to "Activate" the car to enable this (assuming there is someone in Antwerp who might confirm this!) and here again do you think there might be any likelihood that this will cause subsequent issues?

I appreciate you may not be able to answer this but would appreciate your thoughts, if you have time ?

Kind regards
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I feel pretty sure I’ve seen a video where they change the level of the regen braking in the settings!
Coming back to this since I remember an interview with Ron Heiser where he spoke about the different levels of regen, but from what I remember they were specific to the drive modes and not adjustable in its own... and it’s noticeable in the drive modes which is why I prefer whisper in traffic... but it would nice to have the steering feedback and throttle tip in of unbridled at the same time. That is something they could do quite easily, just by reprogramming the L button on the shifter... 1 push, 2 push or 3 push for whisper, engaged or unbridled level regen.
 
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Watch from about 4:55, he talks about changing the regen level.
We crossed posts, lol!

Yep, L gives you max regen, which is essentially Unbridled regen if you’re in Whisper or Active and want more, or in any mode with one pedal off... but you can’t get whisper level regen in unbridled or engaged for example.It would be nice to be able to “tune”your personal drive mode a bit more with more regen options.
 

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Coming back to this since I remember an interview with Ron Heiser where he spoke about the different levels of regen, but from what I remember they were specific to the drive modes and not adjustable in its own... and it’s noticeable in the drive modes which is why I prefer whisper in traffic... but it would nice to have the steering feedback and throttle tip in of unbridled at the same time. That is something they could do quite easily, just by reprogramming the L button on the shifter... 1 push, 2 push or 3 push for whisper, engaged or unbridled level regen.
As soon as I’m in traffic I use active cruise control and let the car follow the car in front, I’ve used this in my Golf GTE and hoping to do the same when the Mach E arrives! ????‍♂
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