USD $0.646 per KWh

[Billyk24]

It seems that most of PA has high rates, but it's always going to be much higher in urban areas.

Even my HOME electricity (about 20 miles NE of Pittsburgh) is 0.19/kWh. Between the high electricity, the new state EV tax (registration fee) and now a federal EV tax (another registration fee), I'm starting to wonder if it would be cheaper to go back to a gasoline car. (I'm sure that was the intention of the oil lobbies who pushed for all the registration fees.)

Short memory loss? Governor Fast Eddie and friends sign into law that tolls from the PA Turnpike are to be used for Pittsburgh snd Philly mass transit. Still true today. Unlikely oil lobby did such or induced higher EV state registration fees. Just wait until your elected officials imposed a per kWh state fee on dcfc for infranstructure needs.

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[RickMachE]

You picked the highest cost fast charging option in your area and at the most expensive time of day.

12AM to 4AM 41 cents plus tax
4AM to 11AM and 8PM to 12AM 52 cents plus tax
You picked 11AM to 8PM for 59 cents plus tax

Guess one would wonder why?

Tesla is 23 cents, including tax, from 4AM to 8AM and after 11PM.

EA is 48 cents 24/7, plus tax.

This is a great example of why checking prices before charging matters. You could have saved $19.92 by charging at Tesla at 7:15...

 

[A-A-Ron]

Tesla is 47¢ but at this point I’d prefer to avoid them too if given the choice.

It's a little funny how excited everyone was to get their NACS adapters, only for someone to ruin using them in the time it took them to arrive.

 

[Space_Pony]

It's a little funny how excited everyone was to get their NACS adapters, only for someone to ruin using them in the time it took them to arrive.

My adapter still works great. I'd rather use Superchargers.

 

[Maui]

The free adapter thing should never have happened. I get that it was a wish to manage range anxiety by opening more opportunities but I suspect most of these sit unused. But perhaps I am spoiled by having so many Buc-ee’s on my drive routes.

 

[A-A-Ron]

My adapter still works great. I'd rather use Superchargers.

It's not how well they work that is keeping people from using Superchargers

 

[ocrts]

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[Jimrpa]

You picked the highest cost fast charging option in your area and at the most expensive time of day.

12AM to 4AM 41 cents plus tax
4AM to 11AM and 8PM to 12AM 52 cents plus tax
You picked 11AM to 8PM for 59 cents plus tax

Guess one would wonder why?

Tesla is 23 cents, including tax, from 4AM to 8AM and after 11PM.

EA is 48 cents 24/7, plus tax.

This is a great example of why checking prices before charging matters. You could have saved $19.92 by charging at Tesla at 7:15...

Couple of things:
1. I didn’t know DCFC had TOD pricing (I still have the mental “gas station” model ?).
2. I could have used a different time period, had I considered (1).
3. As previously stated, I avoid Tesla superchargers when possible. I actually PREFER them because of ease-of-use, but I’d rather not enrich Elmo.

 

[KevOz]

I'm getting ready to take my 1st road trip of the year. Headed to New Orleans. Most of the places, along the way, are chaging $0.48/kWh. I was complaining about that but I'll take a seat compared to your situation.

 

[Brian]

I'm in Ontario but run off of Quebec Hydro because of my location. At home I am at 0.141/kWh CAD but public chargers are at 0.60/kWh CAD. we pay a premium for on the go charging. That being said, I've had my Mach E for 10 months and have used public charging maybe 6 times.

 

[NH_Pony_Boy]

Public charging is not cheap. You have to really pay attention to prices as they can vary widely from one location to another and even by time of the day.

The cheapest is of course charging at home. Otherwise with the price of public fast charging you’re pretty much paying the same as gas.

Wonder what it is going to take for these prices to come down.
In NH I pay about $0.22 per kWh at home (with all taxes and fees added in). I would think that doubling that would be reasonable. Tesla charges about $0.55 and is one of the cheapest options.

 

[Guss]

As I said, I normally charge at home, so this was a shock to me.

That Wawa also has Tesla chargers, but I avoid using Tesla chargers when possible. As I recall, they’re in the $0.45 range.

I live in the Seattle area and I decided to charge at a Tesla charger when I went into Trader Joes to shop. It was $.45 Kwh. I did this to see how it works with my adapter. I always charge at home where it is $.11 Kwh. The difference is huge.

 

[GareBare]

We had to hit the commercial chargers for a month after buying our 2024 MME, and kilowatt hour cost was pretty static it $.48. I think I paid a maximum of 54 or $.55 per kilowatt hour in a little town in South Carolina.

 

[IMDIDOC]

I haven’t had easy access to my home charger for the past few days, so I took my car to the EVgo charger nearby. 47.886 KWh cost $30.94. I know electricity is stupidly expensive in the Philadelphia area, but this seems a bit … excessive? Does this sound reasonable? Note that I am not a “member” of any charging network because I rarely DCFC.

It is making it difficult to justify purchasing an EV if you don't have a home charger. Even then, over the last 4 years my home rate has gone from 13.4 to 26.8 per KW. With falling gasoline prices (filled my wife's car at $2.59) the advantage is evaporating. You will now pay more if you must charge at one of the fast DC chargers. I know you can save in other ways such as oil changes, but really at that price, you can pay to have your oil changed and still be a head of the game.

 

[Charge_Rob]

I haven’t had easy access to my home charger for the past few days, so I took my car to the EVgo charger nearby. 47.886 KWh cost $30.94. I know electricity is stupidly expensive in the Philadelphia area, but this seems a bit … excessive? Does this sound reasonable? Note that I am not a “member” of any charging network because I rarely DCFC.

Keep in mind, DC Fast Charging companies don't just pay for each kWh they deliver, they also pay Demand Charges which can range into the tens of thousands of dollars per month per location depending on the local utility's rates, as well as the capital costs to build the chargers (a home charger costs around $500 on average, whereas DC Fast Chargers can cost around $100,000+), the rent of the parking spaces to the property owner, and maintenance and upkeep. There's also sales taxes in the price in most instances.

EVgo has a blog that explains Demand Charges, for those that may not have heard of them (we don't have them on our residential utility bills in virtually all cases) https://www.evgo.com/blog/dcfc-cost-components-much-more-than-electricity/

Ultimately utilization (more kWhs per plug per day) and scale (more plugs per site to push more kWh per day) is what allows networks to bring costs down, but since 90% of charging is done at home, the utilization rates are low, and even at that price, perhaps still unprofitable for the operator.

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