WiFi modem is named SYNC and it's a TP Link ?

[Hammered]

Funny - you are exactly the ones that we see at work all the time on our network trying to brute force your way in. Most of the attacks come from: China, Russian territories, South America, and southeast Asia......

As a network admin, we have to use aliases instead of our names in the past when we access our local admin accounts and WAN storage.....

And another reason our network access to secured data requires 2FA/MFA......

Guess that's why our ISP insurance is also gotten expensive...

It's more for security analysis. Humans are typically the weakest link. Wireless is open to a whole host of penetration MITM methods however when proximity to an RF transparent structure is possible. When improperly given the ability to access the primary LAN, it's a bigger liability than an open network port sitting outside the building. I've got a small WLAN covering hundreds of square miles. Knowing the exploits is the first step to understanding how to secure it.

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[macchiaz-o]

At home, the MME connects to my home Ubiquiti router; while at work connects to a highly secured Cisco/Meraki wireless, and on the road I use a Verizon mobile hotspot with the lowest security.

Why would you connect your personal vehicle to a workplace (or even, any public place's) wifi? What benefits outweigh the risks here? Or rather, what are the benefits even if there were no risks?

The only thing I can think of would be watching YouTube via SYNC while sitting in a parked car in my employer's parking lot...

I personally wouldn't do this, though. I don't need my employer monitoring my vehicle's presence any more than I'd want to join my personal phone to their wifi. Not worth the potential costs to me.

I also don't see any benefit to connecting it to a Verizon hotspot, unless maybe you don't have AT&T data coverage along *any* of the routes you regularly drive.

What advantage is there to having the car connected to the home wifi?

It seems like OTA prefer if not require a good LTE signal for the car.

It's a good question... I connected my vehicle to my home's wifi just in case it helps, but past evidence indicates that the majority of people's vehicle updates are being delivered via mobile network providers.

The main reason I keep it on wifi, though, is for bug report uploads. My understanding is that my feedback reports only upload to Ford via WiFi, but I've never verified if that is true.

 

[kodiakng]

It's a good question... I connected my vehicle to my home's wifi just in case it helps, but past evidence indicates that the majority of people's vehicle updates are being delivered via mobile network providers.

The main reason I keep it on wifi, though, is for bug report uploads. My understanding is that my feedback reports only upload to Ford via WiFi, but I've never verified if that is true.

i don't have great AT&T coverage at my home so home wifi would give it a better option in addition to much better bandwidth. however, the (educated and experienced) claims here seem to minimize the chances of that helping in reality.

it would be nice to know from ford what their actual strategy on their use of WiFi vs cellular connections might be. the software engineering complexity to make specific services and functions available only over one type of connection vs the other seems wasted effort and adds to customer confusion/frustration.

 

[Hammered]

i don't have great AT&T coverage at my home so home wifi would give it a better option in addition to much better bandwidth. however, the (educated and experienced) claims here seem to minimize the chances of that helping in reality.

it would be nice to know from ford what their actual strategy on their use of WiFi vs cellular connections might be. the software engineering complexity to make specific services and functions available only over one type of connection vs the other seems wasted effort and adds to customer confusion/frustration.

I've got 2 ford's on my wifi and no traffic up or down on them in the last 30 days -- as in literally has passed zero bytes.

 

[kodiakng]

I've got 2 ford's on my wifi and no traffic up or down on them in the last 30 days -- as in literally has passed zero bytes.

mine appeared to download its update over my wifi today (more than 40MB or so). unfortunately, i wasn't setup to get the specifics at the time so i'll have to wait for the next one.

 

[EasyPass]

Why would you connect your personal vehicle to a workplace (or even, any public place's) wifi? What benefits outweigh the risks here? Or rather, what are the benefits even if there were no risks?

The only thing I can think of would be watching YouTube via SYNC while sitting in a parked car in my employer's parking lot...

I personally wouldn't do this, though. I don't need my employer monitoring my vehicle's presence any more than I'd want to join my personal phone to their wifi. Not worth the potential costs to me.

I also don't see any benefit to connecting it to a Verizon hotspot, unless maybe you don't have AT&T data coverage along *any* of the routes you regularly drive.



It's a good question... I connected my vehicle to my home's wifi just in case it helps, but past evidence indicates that the majority of people's vehicle updates are being delivered via mobile network providers.

The main reason I keep it on wifi, though, is for bug report uploads. My understanding is that my feedback reports only upload to Ford via WiFi, but I've never verified if that is true.

" I also don't see any benefit to connecting it to a Verizon hotspot, unless maybe you don't have AT&T data coverage along *any* of the routes you regularly drive. "

I already subscribe to an Unlimited Data Plan on Verizon with my three mobile devices. An example of when I might turn my phone into a Hotspot for the MME to connect to is during a DCFC session and waiting is the only option. There are other scenarios like this as well for using the screen in the MME and watching some YouTube, for example.

I have no reason to subscribe to the data plan for the onboard vehicle cellular service as another resource as it would be redundant to my Verizon service and would be a fixed cost for something I'd probably use infrequently if at all.

 

[macchiaz-o]

There are other scenarios like this as well for using the screen in the MME and watching some YouTube, for example.

Sure, that could be useful. I mentioned it in my earlier reply, also.

I have no reason to subscribe to the data plan for the onboard vehicle cellular service as another resource as it would be redundant to my Verizon service and would be a fixed cost for something I'd probably use infrequently if at all.

Same, I'd never subscribe to the vehicle's built in hotspot. It has no significance for receiving OTA updates, or other connectivity needs of the vehicle. The hotspot option is just another way to get internet access to personal devices like laptops or phones that happen to be in the vehicle.

 

[HuntingPudel]

When I sneak down to the garage to watch soft porn on YouTube I get better throughput ?

Yeah, my neighbors are getting tired of me watching Poodle footage in my driveway. ??

 

[4sallypat]

" I also don't see any benefit to connecting it to a Verizon hotspot, unless maybe you don't have AT&T data coverage along *any* of the routes you regularly drive. "

I already subscribe to an Unlimited Data Plan on Verizon with my three mobile devices. An example of when I might turn my phone into a Hotspot for the MME to connect to is during a DCFC session and waiting is the only option. There are other scenarios like this as well for using the screen in the MME and watching some YouTube, for example.

I have no reason to subscribe to the data plan for the onboard vehicle cellular service as another resource as it would be redundant to my Verizon service and would be a fixed cost for something I'd probably use infrequently if at all.

I don't have an onboard vehicle data service or streaming subscription in my personal vehicle.
My work vehicle has 2 way GPS tracking as well as a mobile data hotspot built in.

And while away from my government vehicle, they also gave me an unlimited data Verizon hotspot + cellphone both with first responder priority data & phone access in the event of an emergency.

Nice to have connectivity at home, work and on the road....

 

[Hammered]

Same, I'd never subscribe to the vehicle's built in hotspot. It has no significance for receiving OTA updates, or other connectivity needs of the vehicle. The hotspot option is just another way to get internet access to personal devices like laptops or phones that happen to be in the vehicle.

I run the hotspot in both fords. It's $15/mo unlimited with more than 3x the antenna gain of cellphones, plus it's in a superior location. 2 vehicles + my phone's plan is $45/mo. I have weekly routes where the cell fails over to VOIP on the vehicle's modem.

 

[macchiaz-o]

I run the hotspot in both fords. It's $15/mo unlimited with more than 3x the antenna gain of cellphones, plus it's in a superior location. 2 vehicles + my phone's plan is $45/mo. I have weekly routes where the cell fails over to VOIP on the vehicle's modem.

That is really good reasoning and a nice example of where the hotspot would be useful. Thank you!

Antenna design, gain, and location are all helpful, as you mentioned. But also, if someone's on a network other than AT&T, then they'd benefit from the combination of two network's footprints.

 

[Hammered]

That is really good reasoning and a nice example of where the hotspot would be useful. Thank you!

Antenna design, gain, and location are all helpful, as you mentioned. But also, if someone's on a network other than AT&T, then they'd benefit from the combination of two network's footprints.

My phone isn't on ATT so it's a perk. My phone plan is unlimited sans the 1GB of data /mo, which rolls over. I've still got 30GB worth of data sitting in reserve as it's rare to not have wifi to connect to.

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