Tesla Supercharger access now stated as February 2024 (by Tesla)

"Our first car company, Ford, and then GM, are starting in Feb 2024... We're opening up to most of the other car manufacturers in stages just to make sure we don't get swamped all at once."

Sawyer Merritt on X: "NEWS: Ford and GM vehicles will gain access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers in North America in February ...

February '24 could be when Ford and GM start testing Supercharger vehicle software, not when we get to use them. Testing might take several months before they're enabled for us in spring.

For context, the woman's name is Jennifer Pretare and her title is Design Manager, Charging Infrastructure at Tesla. She was there to answer questions about a new Supercharger installation in their city.

The fact that the Superchargers will only work with Ford and GM vehicles at first is significant because it means there is likely manufacturer-specific software involved to make charging work. They are not simply enabling CCS on Superchargers that allows anybody to use them. I've said this before, but as part of Tesla's tightly controlled charging ecosystem, I expect only CCS adapters provided by your vehicle manufacturer to work.

Farleysaid it would be integrated to Fordpass, so that is no surprise to me. I choose to believe we will see Feb 24....

RickMachE said:

Farleysaid it would be integrated to Fordpass, so that is no surprise to me. I choose to believe we will see Feb 24....

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Farley has said a lot of things. I'll believe it when I've had an adapter shipped to me.
https://fordauthority.com/2023/05/all-current-ford-ev-owners-will-get-tesla-nacs-adapter/

KevinS said:

Farley has said a lot of things. I'll believe it when I've had an adapter shipped to me.
https://fordauthority.com/2023/05/all-current-ford-ev-owners-will-get-tesla-nacs-adapter/

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Not free.

RickMachE said:

Not free.

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Yes, that's my guess too, even though Farley is quoted in the article as saying:

“We’re going to ship an adapter to everyone who’s bought a Ford EV.”

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Everything about the NACS deal with Tesla reeked of them just winging it when they announced it, like Farley and Musk just had a handshake agreement and called a press conference.

Personally I think Farley has signed his own death warrant with Ford, with this being an example of how he will be blamed for their problems with EV adoption. We're getting to a point where new buyers will just wait until the cars have NACS built-in. Good old-fashioned Osborne Effect in action.

I could be wrong, but I would have thought that maybe two to three months after the deals were announced, GM and Ford would have been working with Tesla's charging team to test beta software on one or two of their EVs using a Tesla supercharger.

But it seems to me that most of the software related changes would need to take place on Tesla's side. Software changes that would recognize 'authorized' vehicles using the vehicle's Vin or Mac ID, which would probably need to incorporate Plug and Charge and any other tools Tesla would need to lock down the access.

I'm going to speculate and say that the adapter will be made by Tesla and that the adapter will also be apart of the authentication process. Meaning, that there would have to be some way for the adapter to verify your vehicle's VIN and then pass that on to Tesla's system, which would confirm that you're authorized. But I'm just guessing so take that it for what it's worth, which is nothing.

Yes....Yes.....Yes..... February is a reasonable time to wait. Hopefully FordPass will be integrated at the same timeframe without any glitches.

Hopefully the authorization & charge process is integrated within our smart phone FordPass and and the new charge assist app inside of the touch screen. Redundancy is critical for reliable road tripping.

Interesting that they are going one auto manufacturer at a time. That means it will be more of a gradual increase in demand on the superchargers (and possibly decrease in demand on CCS1 network) rather than a flood of all the CCS1 cars hurrying to try out the new shiny.

AhardFSU said:

I'm going to speculate and say that the adapter will be made by Tesla and that the adapter will also be apart of the authentication process. Meaning, that there would have to be some way for the adapter to verify your vehicle's VIN and then pass that on to Tesla's system, which would confirm that you're authorized. But I'm just guessing so take that it for what it's worth, which is nothing.

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I'm pretty sure it was already announced early on that Tesla would be the one building the adapters, as a supplier for Ford et al.

Since the car and the charger have to talk to each other anyway to regulate power levels (that's requested by the car at all points of SOC), I would assume that handshake will provide the VIN too just like it does on other networks. Thus not the adapter doing it. Adhering to the standard protocols.

thekat03 said:

Interesting that they are going one auto manufacturer at a time. That means it will be more of a gradual increase in demand on the superchargers (and possibly decrease in demand on CCS1 network) rather than a flood of all the CCS1 cars hurrying to try out the new shiny.

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That makes sense. Although it could also simply be part of the negotiations that took place, and honoring those that made the first commitments.

So, everyone mark the day on your calendar, February 30th!

Why do we need a FordPass integration? Isn't it going to be a "plug and charge"?
And, while I'm here, what could be the price for the adapter?

alexgorod said:

Why do we need a FordPass integration? Isn't it going to be a "plug and charge"?
And, while I'm here, what could be the price for the adapter?

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There’s no official word from any of the parties as to whether Tesla is going to implement Plug and Charge. There’s been some speculation but nothing concrete.

Ford Pass and the Ford charge app integration would allow for redundancy if Plug and Charge is implemented and a way to activate the charger if P&C isn’t implemented.

Some have guessed that the adapter, which I suspect is just the magic dock without the dock, will be $199.