Thoughts and comparisons to the MachE after driving a Tesla Model 3 over the weekend.

[HuntingPudel]

OK so my Blazer’s trim level is what can be described as bare bones. The only comfort options on it are the plastic roof and roll-up door windows. No carpet, no noise insulation. When I had mud tires on it, it was unbearably loud with the roof on. Much better with the roof off. That said, there was some odd quality about the Brand T that I drove where the cabin just didn’t feel “right.” Loud inside is not that bad to me, as I’m used to it, but there was something that just bugged me about the little Brand T.

So that was a minor gripe. Add the fit and finish issues as more minor gripes. The thing that I just did not like was the lack of an instrument panel, so that was the deal breaker for me.

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[Joetz]

I wish I could have my MME with the my Tesla’s software. What a product that would be!

 

[littlD]

Well you wouldn’t be here to tell us if it did.

It just seems like Tesla is really encouraging people to not pay attention and let the car do it for them. What are people needing to do at a red light other than look at the light?

What happens when there’s a pedestrian that jaywalks or an emergency vehicle or someone runs a light?

I would rather put safety things on a car that encourage people to pay attention rather than the opposite.

I remember in the video of the Tesla guy reviewing blue cruise that he criticized it because the Tesla autopilot was “better if you’re not paying attention.”

I think that’s actually a bad thing!

I just wish more people would have a dialogue instead of judging based on what brand of car they drive. I hope you and I can.

I'm just wondering why you immediately judge me as a Tesla Stan/Fanboy with your comment "Well you wouldn’t be here to tell us if it did.".

I've been sharing my real experiences, good or bad, for over three years now in my podcast.

I've also provided tips to help Mach-E owners with maximizing their experience on roadtrips (check for my other posts).

Most people on this forum have been welcoming and accommodating. I'm not here to say Tesla is better than Ford. I respect each person's right to choose what they think is best for them. I've shared my experiences, take them or leave them.

To answer your point that Tesla wants us to not pay attention, I'm currently testing 2021.32.5 that includes Driver Monitoring using the cabin camera to do just that. I'm sure you probably didn't know about that, so not holding it against you.

 

[timbop]

I just wish more people would have a dialogue instead of judging based on what brand of car they drive

Totally agree, and not just with respect to cars. While it's easy to apply labels and think tribally, that's a limited and destructive strategy. Unfortunately that kind of behavior is ingrained due to evolution, but we can consciously choose to use our intellect over instinct.

 

[zvez]

Totally agree, and not just with respect to cars. While it's easy to apply labels and think tribally, that's a limited and destructive strategy. Unfortunately that kind of behavior is ingrained due to evolution, but we can consciously choose to use our intellect over instinct.

my friend has two model 3s and absolutely loves them, I think they're around three years old. I looked at tesla but the looks of the model 3 and Y leave totally cold. I'd love a model S or x but are way out of my price range.

So for me the mach e is filling the bill nicely. I only wish I could've afforded a GT.

 

[timbop]

my friend has two model 3s and absolutely loves them, I think they're around three years old. I looked at tesla but the looks of the model 3 and Y leave totally cold. I'd love a model S or x but are way out of my price range.

So for me the mach e is filling the bill nicely. I only wish I could've afforded a GT.

I have 2 friends with model 3's also, and they are pretty good cars. I was on the fence last year so test drove one and liked the way it drove, but didn't like the UI - there's no way my wife would ever feel comfortable having to navigate the touchscreen just to move mirrors or turn on the damn wipers. I also really got disgusted with Musk's irresponsible behavior with covid.

I love my Mach E and am glad I got it, but I am adult enough to admit it has its warts. I am planning a 1500 mile drive in 3 weeks and am nervous about having charging issues along the way - I don't think I would have any reservations if I could rely on the supercharger network. Ford will get there, but it will take time.

 

[Mach1E]

I just wish more people would have a dialogue instead of judging based on what brand of car they drive. I hope you and I can.

I'm just wondering why you immediately judge me as a Tesla Stan/Fanboy with your comment "Well you wouldn’t be here to tell us if it did.".

I've been sharing my real experiences, good or bad, for over three years now in my podcast.

I've also provided tips to help Mach-E owners with maximizing their experience on roadtrips (check for my other posts).

Most people on this forum have been welcoming and accommodating. I'm not here to say Tesla is better than Ford. I respect each person's right to choose what they think is best for them. I've shared my experiences, take them or leave them.

To answer your point that Tesla wants us to not pay attention, I'm currently testing 2021.32.5 that includes Driver Monitoring using the cabin camera to do just that. I'm sure you probably didn't know about that, so not holding it against you.

I think you completely missed the joke. No part of it was implying you’re a fanboy.

If your car made you run a red light, you wouldn’t be here because you’d be dead.

I guess it was a missed attempt at humor. ?

FWIW, I like many people here are cross shopping Tesla.

I still stand by my statement. They keep adding features that seem to encourage people to NOT pay attention to the road. The only reason they seem to be adding driver monitoring and the like is due to government pressure and negative press. But if they do add them, it’s a good thing. You shouldn’t be able to bypass safety systems so easily.

 

[BadgerGreg]

I wish I could have my MME with the my Tesla’s software. What a product that would be!

Ford may have done better if they paid Tesla for the rights to use their OS (especially the navigation). Also, I like the fart option.

 

[Jimrpa]

I would hope that, after 12 (?) years of experience designing and developing screen/touch-forward automotive UIs, this would be an area where Tesla is the undisputed industry leader. I’d expect them to operate smoothly and glitch-free. There may be aspects I personally don’t care for (for example, the lack of an IP, the horizontal orientation, relying on software to control the vents and so on), but those are preferences, not comments on how well the UI experience operates.
The Mustang Mach E is Ford’s first attempt at a car with a UI that is more screen/touch-centric, so I expect hiccups.

Since the vehicle is a Mustang, I was rather hoping that the Premium would best the various variants (excluding the “performance” ones) in terms of metrics like acceleration. It’s always slightly disappointing to read people say that the regular Tesla 3 blob has “shockingly fast acceleration” compared to the Mustang Mach E Premium AWD. I’d prefer to at least see that the Tesla model 3Y blobs performance are on par with the Mustang Mach E Premium AWD. After all, my car iS a Mustang, and those are just fugly blobs. ???

 

[pt19713]

Since the vehicle is a Mustang, I was rather hoping that the Premium would best the various variants (excluding the “performance” ones) in terms of metrics like acceleration. It’s always slightly disappointing to read people say that the regular Tesla 3 blob has “shockingly fast acceleration” compared to the Mustang Mach E Premium AWD. I’d prefer to at least see that the Tesla model 3Y blobs performance are on par with the Mustang Mach E Premium AWD. After all, my car iS a Mustang, and those are just fugly blobs. ???

I don't know if you've been following the GTPE threads but as it stands now, the GTPE can't even keep up with the Model Y Long Range (with acceleration boost) in the 1/8th and 1/4 mile. The 0-60 is about the same. The GTPE was meant to compete against the Model Y Performance and falls well short (11.9 @ 115 mph vs the GTPE 12.6 @ 100 mph), and also falls short against the Y LR w/ AB (12.2 @ 107 mph). A stock Y LR runs 12.7 @ 105.

 

[dbsb3233]

I would hope that, after 12 (?) years of experience designing and developing screen/touch-forward automotive UIs, this would be an area where Tesla is the undisputed industry leader. I’d expect them to operate smoothly and glitch-free. There may be aspects I personally don’t care for (for example, the lack of an IP, the horizontal orientation, relying on software to control the vents and so on), but those are preferences, not comments on how well the UI experience operates.
The Mustang Mach E is Ford’s first attempt at a car with a UI that is more screen/touch-centric, so I expect hiccups.

Agreed. Although I would add a clarification to that... it's the lack of additional physical controls as redundancy. It's great that the screen can control everything, but it's not great that only the screen control everything.

 

[Badger_Prof]

Figured I'd compare my experiences to my Mach E (Premium, RWD, standard battery with about 5500 miles on it so far.)

Things I liked about the Tesla (in comparison to my Mach E.)

• The acceleration in the Model Y is almost shocking. I was pleased that my Mach E's acceleration was roughly similar to my boss's old Model S, and that it can throw me back in the seat, but it doesn't compare to the Tesla. It accelerates so fast that it actually locked up the seatbelt. I also scared the living crap out of my wife despite warning her.

Keep in mind that you are comparing the model Y to what I believe is the slowest available Mach-E. You might notice less difference if comparing to an ER AWD Mach-E. That said, my son has a Model Y so he and I do a lot of cross driving and cross comparisons. I think your review is right on although I don't find enough difference between acceleration in his Model Y and my ER AWD Mach-E to care. By the way, we both love both cars and each feel we made the right decision for ourselves.

 

[Njia]

I do enjoy the sense of whimsy they imbued in the infotainment system.

"Whimsy???"

 

[BMT1071]

Not to nitpick, but the ER RWD is the slowest published 0-60. SR RWD is claimed to be .3 sec faster IIRC.

 

[Jimrpa]

I don't know if you've been following the GTPE threads but as it stands now, the GTPE can't even keep up with the Model Y Long Range (with acceleration boost) in the 1/8th and 1/4 mile. The 0-60 is about the same. The GTPE was meant to compete against the Model Y Performance and falls well short (11.9 @ 115 mph vs the GTPE 12.6 @ 100 mph), and also falls short against the Y LR w/ AB (12.2 @ 107 mph). A stock Y LR runs 12.7 @ 105.

I have not. I thought Ford said the GT Performance Edition would do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds?

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