Ford is opening up some more First Edition Mach-E orders

[Badger_Prof]

The assumption is that these are the ones (maybe ~200) that were the "unclaimed" FEs (reserved but never ordered). And that they're being made with the other US FEs in Oct-Nov. And that whoever these 200 go to will be getting them delivered in Nov-Dec just like the original res holders would have. Potentially months ahead of people that would have reserved an FE had they not "sold out" in the first 9 days.

For instance, I reserved in late Dec, well after FEs sold out. I ended up ordering a Premium AWD ER that I now estimate deliver around Feb. But had FEs still been available for Nov-Dec delivery, I would have ordered that instead.

That's the "passed over" effect I'm referring to -- that a brand new customer could place an order today for one of these FEs for deliver in 2020 when there's hundreds of people with reservation waiting 9-10 months now that would love an FE with 2020 delivery had they been given the opportunity to upgrade before brand new customers.

But, what makes you think that these would be made before yours is made? I have not seen anything concrete that suggests that all FEs will be made before any Premiums or that the recent FE orders will get an earlier production slot than the cars reserved/ordered earlier. Your assumption might be correct but I don't think we have anything to indicate that it is (or is not). Seems like some folks are getting upset about their own assumption.

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[Kamuelaflyer]

The assumption is that these are the ones (maybe ~200) that were the "unclaimed" FEs (reserved but never ordered). And that they're being made with the other US FEs in Oct-Nov. And that whoever these 200 go to will be getting them delivered in Nov-Dec just like the original res holders would have. Potentially months ahead of people that would have reserved an FE had they not "sold out" in the first 9 days.

For instance, I reserved in late Dec, well after FEs sold out. I ended up ordering a Premium AWD ER that I now estimate deliver around Feb. But had FEs still been available for Nov-Dec delivery, I would have ordered that instead.

That's the "passed over" effect I'm referring to -- that a brand new customer could place an order today for one of these FEs for deliver in 2020 when there's hundreds of people with reservation waiting 9-10 months now that would love an FE with 2020 delivery had they been given the opportunity to upgrade before brand new customers.

I don't know if it was here or over on that other forum, but I think the vehicles were cars Ford has planned building with all the other FEs and were destined for various advertising and promotional entities. The pandemic changed that. My guess is the number available for the machdrop is very low and were accounted for in the various production estimates we've seen. I also think the order conversion rate for FE was extremely high. Just my gut feeling as to that last bit.

Feel free to disagree or wonder about my sanity if I've misremembered or invented this notion. It's been a very long and reasonably painful day, it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[SD_Solar]

Feel free to disagree or wonder about my sanity if I've misremembered or invented this notion.

Yep, trutolife27 said yesterday they were First edition models order to be made and go to different Advertising sectors. Probably around 100 cars.

I would guess these were to be more like show room cars but unlike the Dealer demos, they would not have to wait 4 months / 4,000 miles to sell them to a customer.

 

[eager2own]

Although only an assumption, I don't think it makes sense for the newly ordered FEs to be built six months after the original batch. It makes no sense from a manufacturing efficiency standpoint. It also makes no sense from a marketing standpoint -- I don't see how those ordering these newly available First Editions would be expecting that those First Editions would be delivered 6 months after non-FEs have already been delivering to others.

For all those complaining about 100 to 1,000 FEs jumping ahead of them in the build sequence, I can only say "get over it." As someone who made a GT reservation on the reveal day, I have tens of thousands of people (including many who would now complain about being slightly bumped back in line) jumping in front of the 30% with GT reservations. But I knew that when I decided I wanted a GT -- and the same is true for all those who decided they wanted a non-FE. If build sequence is that absolutely critical to you, order a First Edition -- otherwise expect that those who order a First Edition will likely get builds before you do.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

I've been reading about this FE upgrades possibility but did you knew that an FE option package exist on the Premium trim here in Canada and the cost difference of course vary from where you are going from. Just let say that if you had choosen the ER AWD Premium the upgrade package here would be $2,000 CAN

 

[dbsb3233]

But I knew that when I decided I wanted a GT -- and the same is true for all those who decided they wanted a non-FE.

Except that's only true for the people that reserved in the first 9 days while the FE was available, before it "sold out". There are many that reserved after 9 days (missed the announcement... were still doing due diligence... etc) that would have loved to order an FE but were only allowed to order the closest thing (Premium AWD ER, which I think is the most-ordered configuration). Thousands of people reserved in December (for instance) being told FEs were sold out. Nobody has a problem with that because we knew (or so we thought) that it was a limited edition and we were simply too late to get one while they lasted. Oh well.

But now to throw a few hundred back in the pool for brand new buyers to snap up while others waiting 9 months would have preferred one (as well as getting it months sooner) is obviously going to piss many of those people off. I'll be a little miffed at it too if they let brand new buyers jump ahead without reasonable opportunity to let me upgrade first.

Now, that doesn't mean I'm so pissed that I'm gonna cancel my Mach-e completely. Even if they do this right, I'm a late-Dec res, and all 200 (or whatever the number) would probably go to people that ordered ahead of me. I know my odds are slim for an upgrade. But surely you can see how people will be pissed if they let brand new buyers come in 9 months later and snap them up without a chance for the long-time reservers getting first crack.

Lemme ask you this... What if Ford tweeted out that they decided to make 200 GTs now, and is allowing new buyers to jump in right now and get them for Nov delivery. While you're still waiting for your summer-2021 delivery that you reserved many months ago?

That wouldn't piss you off?

 

[SnBGC]

I've been reading about this FE upgrades possibility but did you knew that an FE option package exist on the Premium trim here in Canada and the cost difference of course vary from where you are going from. Just let say that if you had choosen the ER AWD Premium the upgrade package here would be $2,000 CAN

Interesting.
The FE is an option on the Premium AWD here in the states as well. However, we haven't been able to select it like it shows on your screen.

Is that a current screen shot? Are you actually able to select the FE package on a new order?

I didnt think Canada was able to submit order requests online......
???

 

[SnBGC]

Except that's only true for the people that reserved in the first 9 days while the FE was available, before it "sold out". There are many that reserved after 9 days (missed the announcement... were still doing due diligence... etc) that would have loved to order an FE but were only allowed to order the closest thing (Premium AWD ER, which I think is the most-ordered configuration). Thousands of people reserved in December (for instance) being told FEs were sold out. Nobody has a problem with that because we knew (or so we thought) that it was a limited edition and we were simply too late to get one while they lasted. Oh well.

But now to throw a few hundred back in the pool for brand new buyers to snap up while others waiting 9 months would have preferred one (as well as getting it months sooner) is obviously going to piss many of those people off. I'll be a little miffed at it too if they let brand new buyers jump ahead without reasonable opportunity to let me upgrade first.

Now, that doesn't mean I'm so pissed that I'm gonna cancel my Mach-e completely. Even if they do this right, I'm a late-Dec res, and all 200 (or whatever the number) would probably go to people that ordered ahead of me. I know my odds are slim for an upgrade. But surely you can see how people will be pissed if they let brand new buyers come in 9 months later and snap them up without a chance for the long-time reservers getting first crack.

Lemme ask you this... What if Ford tweeted out that they decided to make 200 GTs now, and is allowing new buyers to jump in right now and get them for Nov delivery. While you're still waiting for your summer-2021 delivery that you reserved many months ago?

That wouldn't piss you off?

I would be quite bothered.
I am hoping your dealer was able to get your request submitted for consideration. (Crossing finders....and chanting "please, please"...)

 

[DaveRuns]

Called my local dealer who I placed my order with. I told him about Ford’s Instagram push and that we were being asked to contact our local dealer about switching the order from a Premium to a FE. He said when he logged in he couldnt see any allocations, but he was going to talk to his general manager and get back with me. He was a nice guy—he says it common that Ford gets ahead of the dealerships.

 

[eager2own]

Lemme ask you this... What if Ford tweeted out that they decided to make 200 GTs now, and is allowing new buyers to jump in right now and get them for Nov delivery. While you're still waiting for your summer-2021 delivery that you reserved many months ago?

That wouldn't piss you off?

That's a false equivalency argument. They're not saying that folks who now order the same trim you ordered will now get the vehicle eight months before you. They are saying that folks who order a trim that is slated to be built first will get it first -- much as folks who order a Premium today do jump in front of my GT order.

Having said that, I do agree that Ford should give those who have reservations for non-FEs priority to upgrade to an FE if they choose to do so. If you had that option and still chose not to get an FE, there's no reason to complain that FEs are being built first.

 

[dbsb3233]

That's a false equivalency argument. They're not saying that folks who now order the same trim you ordered will now get the vehicle eight months before you. They are saying that folks who order a trim that is slated to be built first will get it first -- much as folks who order a Premium today do jump in front of my GT order.

But again, many didn't order FE only because they weren't allowed to order an FE after the first 9 days. Doesn't mean it wasn't many people's first choice. So it works out to the same thing -- people wanted an FE for early delivery that had to settle for a Premium with later delivery are now seeing new customers allowed to jump in at the last minute and get what they wanted much sooner.

That's equivalent to you wanting a GT sooner but not being able to because they originally said you couldn't, only to find 9 months later that new buyers could jump in and get one early. The specifics are a little different but the principle is the same.

Having said that, I do agree that Ford should give those who have reservations for non-FEs priority to upgrade to an FE if they choose to do so. If you had that option and still chose not to get an FE, there's no reason to complain that FEs are being built first.

Absolutely on the first sentence. The 2nd sentence is moot because that's not what people are upset about. Obviously if anyone offered an FE now and turns it down has no reason to be upset.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

Interesting.
The FE is an option on the Premium AWD here in the states as well. However, we haven't been able to select it like it shows on your screen.

Is that a current screen shot? Are you actually able to select the FE package on a new order?

I didnt think Canada was able to submit order requests online......
???

The package FE option is there since they opened up the order on ford.ca site beginning of July I believe. No we cannot reserve on line but we can build and price a trim and then they refer you to a dealer for a quote, like any other model. The screenshot is from this morning. I must add that if I would modify my order now with the dealer, I don't expect I would get the car sooner, would simply be an additionnal option to my original order and I would think you could do that untill the car is schedule for production ???? and probably only for this model year.

 

[SnBGC]

The package FE option is there since they opened up the order on ford.ca site beginning of July I believe. No we cannot reserve on line but we can build and price a trim and then they refer you to a dealer for a quote, like any other model. The screenshot is from this morning. I must add that if I would modify my order now with the dealer, I don't expect I would get the car sooner, would simply be an additionnal option to my original order and I would think you could do that untill the car is schedule for production ???? and probably only for this model year.

VERY interesting.
Your info aligns with my long standing theory that the First Editions could be built right along side Premium Editions. Like you point out, the FE package is an option group....not it's own unique model.

When you really think about it. History will record that the 2021 model year Premium Edition Mach E were the first Mach Es to be assembled and shipped. Some of those will have special appearance items to commemorate the occasion and be labeled as such. Hence the First Edition moniker.

It would be very interesting to know if you currently have an order for the K3S and attempted to add the 301A package....would it be allowed? And if so, would that change or affect the scheduled built sequence of your vehicle in any way.

 

[SnBGC]

But, what makes you think that these would be made before yours is made? I have not seen anything concrete that suggests that all FEs will be made before any Premiums or that the recent FE orders will get an earlier production slot than the cars reserved/ordered earlier. Your assumption might be correct but I don't think we have anything to indicate that it is (or is not). Seems like some folks are getting upset about their own assumption.

According to my dealer rep...
He believes the FE units that recently became available to purchase were always scheduled to be assembled before customer ordered First Editions. This info came from his Ford agent and corroborated by the order sequence number which is lower than any of the known customer First Edition numbers. The time stamp was very early as well. As in, before the reservation window opened back in November. He wouldn't say for certain but I can read between the lines a bit....

I took that info with a grain of salt last week when an FE became available to me but now it makes much more sense when I read trutolife27's post late yesterday.

 

[JamieGeek]

This has been a very active topic and I've been hesitant to jump in the fray but here goes anyway(what did I say earlier about doing stupid things..?).

After reading quite a bit of this my only observation here is this: Nobody is going to be "pushed back", even if someone new picks one of these up. There are several posts (including the one immediately ahead of this one) indicating that Ford was going to build these anyway.

Thus these added "new" cars aren't going to delay anyone's premium, RT 1, GT, etc. because they were already accounted for in the system.

The only thing to really get your knickers in a bunch is someone who would have liked to have a First Edition and was unable to trying to get one of these (and missing out for some reason).

So if you aren't getting a First Edition this news really has no affect on you.

Ok I'm off my soapbox now and will refrain from further comments in this very contentious and active thread

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