Electric SUVs generally are among the Least Reliable...

[2021mustangdan]

According to Consumer Reports electric SUVs were the least reliable. While they state that compact and plug-in-gas electric hybrids were the most reliable category.

I thought the main advantage of EVs in general was better reliability because of the electric powertrain ( electric motors + batteries )

As usual for Consumer Reports they state Japanese brands led the top ten spots.

Seems if it is German or American, they always state they are not good reliability.

In the past , Japanese vehicles the most boring to drive and German, American known for driving experience.

Maybe the electric models with the least optional equipment / electronic options may be more reliable ?

What are your thoughts with Consumer Reports article ? In other articles the Mach-E has been rated second next to Tesla ( Munro Live, Car & Driver etc )

Negative articles such as this may discourage many from moving to BEVs.

Hoping not to have not too many issues with the 2022 Mach-E Select RWD , I have ordered.

see link:
https://www.reuters.com/article/autos-electric-reliability-idCNL4N2S93OX

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/electric-suvs-rank-lowest-reliability-170000143.html

Dan

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[KevinS]

A link to what you're citing/referring to would be helpful.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1134740_evs-least-reliable-vehicle-type-problem-areas

 

[Polar]

“Only one electric SUV—Ford's Mustang Mach-E, earned an "above-average reliability" rating.”
Stated in the article - so again where is your concern?

 

[phidauex]

One reason these assessments take some interpretation is that "reliable" has a lot of different meanings, and apply differently when talking about two new cars of different technology, vs. two old cars of different technology.

New cars aren't wearing out prematurely - they have glitchy software, or infant mortality in complex parts. Because EVs have more new parts and more new software they are probably more prone to that type of problem right now.

Over time, those glitches will get fixed, and the parts that were prone to infant mortality will have been replaced, and the long tail of reliability will be in play. That is where EVs are really going to shine. I've owned several vehicles over 250k miles, and that is REALLY where the differences in manufacturing and repairability drive reliability. But you won't see that in a Consumer Reports survey.

Now in the meantime it maybe doesn't matter - if your car strands you or sits at the dealership it sucks either way, regardless of whether it was a tiny software glitch or a major design flaw. But the fundamentals of EV maintenance are so much simpler that over time we'll see the trend shifting strongly in favor of EVs. In the meantime manufacturerrs just need to stay on top of the issues, roll out fixes quickly, and get used to building cars the new way.

 

[Brutakus]

Did you also see this? https://www.consumerreports.org/hyb...-tesla-model-3-as-cr-ev-top-pick-a6095541654/ with them also putting the Mach E as their top Electric vehicle in the $45k+ category for their Best Cars of 2022 list

 

[Motomax]

Japanese car makers are notorious for revising parts to make vehicles more reliable. They generally test new tech on a much smaller scale to work out the bugs. They aren’t focused on have the newest and greatest, they want reliability. That’s why they are generally seen as reliable but boring. They also focus a lot on build quality. Toyotas manufacturing system is the best in the business.

German cars are beyond overly engineered, soo many different systems to go wrong but they drive amazingly. Their focus is on luxury and driving performance. I think most of their issues revolve around undersized wiring. Broken wiring in doors are soo common for VWs.

Personally, I trust domestic cars the least. The companies I’ve worked for have always had ford trucks/cars and they cannot hold up to the abuse. There’s always something broken, loose, or rattling. The 2012 fusions we have look/drive like they just drove over a thousand speed bumps in a row and they only have like 20k miles lol. Tesla also falls under domestic but apparently better than ford because I didn’t buy a Tesla haha.

EVs are pretty simple Powertrain wise compared to gas. There’s not a lot of parts and it’s pretty simple to replace them. The issue is that it’s still a relatively new application and you need time to revise parts for reliability (mostly batteries and electronics). Although, I think the main issue with EVs is that by nature they have to have the latest and greatest tech which again hasn’t been re-engineered enough times to be as reliable.

that’s my internet expert opinion lol.

 

[voxel]

The ID.4 just drags the entire class down a few grades. Bolt recall didn’t help either.

 

[Triggerhappy007]

The ID.4 just drags the entire class down a few grades. Bolt recall didn’t help either.

And the model Y too, the best selling electric SUV.

 

[ChuckA]

Many of the examples in the Consumers Reports article as EV reliability issues are plain old crappy manufacturing. Air leaks, noises and trim fit are not just in EV’s.

In my opinion, the most unreliable feature in an EV is the lack of reliable fast charging stations. And that can’t be fixed in a recall!

 

[timbop]

Since most of the EV's on the market are extremely immature and based off of completely new designs, it makes sense that they are less reliable than iterative changes on long lived legacy designs. What you're seeing is an artifact of the product life cycle, not an inherent characteristic of BEV's.

The good news is that most of the warts of BEV's are the overambitious software and not hardware problems.

 

[RickMachE]

Did you also see this? https://www.consumerreports.org/hyb...-tesla-model-3-as-cr-ev-top-pick-a6095541654/ with them also putting the Mach E as their top Electric vehicle in the $45k+ category for their Best Cars of 2022 list

Gotta love social media...

 

[SnBGC]

Mine has been very reliable. I had the Stop Safely Message once but it turned out to be a false alarm. Parked the car for a short bit and everything reset itself. Other than that morning, every other day has been trouble free. No mechanical issues of any kind.

 

[Draconfier]

According to Consumer Reports electric SUVs were the least reliable. While they state that compact and plug-in-gas electric hybrids were the most reliable category.

I thought the main advantage of EVs in general was better reliability because of the electric powertrain ( electric motors + batteries )

As usual for Consumer Reports they state Japanese brands led the top ten spots.

Seems if it is German or American, they always state they are not good reliability.

In the past , Japanese vehicles the most boring to drive and German, American known for driving experience.

Maybe the electric models with the least optional equipment / electronic options may be more reliable ?

What are your thoughts with Consumer Reports article ? In other articles the Mach-E has been rated second next to Tesla ( Munro Live, Car & Driver etc )

Negative articles such as this may discourage many from moving to BEVs.

Hoping not to have not too many issues with the 2022 Mach-E Select RWD , I have ordered.

see link:
https://www.reuters.com/article/autos-electric-reliability-idCNL4N2S93OX

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/electric-suvs-rank-lowest-reliability-170000143.html

Dan

One of the hardest fastest rules of reporting is "Know your source"

Consumer Reports Top 10 2022

In this case I'd say you didn't do your research. Don't quote a site without knowing what they've actually printed/said.

 

[Tangible]

The reliability of EVs in the aggregate is irrelevant to the consumer. You don’t buy a class of cars; you buy a car. The MME is reliable, as CR notes. That’s all a potential MME buyer needs to know.

 

[stevec73]

Mine has been very reliable. What seemed like a big reliability issue turned out to be the fault of a 3rd-party API connection keeping my car's systems from going fully to sleep. In the last few weeks, the pace of OTA updates has been really fast. I knew I was an early adopter, and I'm pleasantly surprised by how good my experience has been so far. Not perfect, and I certainly understand that many others have had SERIOUS issues, but pretty darn good.

My previous car was a 2019 Honda Insight, and I loved it. When I took delivery, though, there were some really serious build quality issues that needed to be addressed. I also owned a 2014 Insight that was honestly one of the crappiest cars I've ever had, and a meticulously maintained 2003 Civic whose engine would have required a complete rebuild at 125k miles because of what my mechanic could only say was probably because my car had been built on a Monday... Very un-Honda-like. I simply mean to say that even the manufacturers with the best reputations for quality are far from perfect. Ford seems to be working hard to fix the sins of the recent past. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

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