All I want for Christmas is for the recirculate function to stay on!

[Eden]

Simple answer: The air on the freeway, with trucks and old vehicles spewing fumes is anything but "fresh". Same with lines of cars on city streets stopping at every stoplight. Driving through a pine forest on a mountain road - yes fresh outside air is actually aromatic and desirable. Driving in a city, not so much. Even in CARB California, there are areas where brown air still exists - it is called SMOG. Measurements taken near residential areas adjacent to freeways a couple of decades or so ago showed the air quality to be worse than allowable industrial levels. Not all the time, but enough to raise concerns about cancer and asthma issues. Every car I have owned except for FORDS allow me to turn the RECIRC on and leave it on - all the time. The old FORD vacuum actuated climate control system was easy to hack by altering one control hose so that the outside air vent gate remained closed. Drove on many long trips with my family with that vent door closed. Never a problem. In SoCal, I have only experienced fogged windows 2 or 3 times in the last decade - in any car. When window was fogged, I hit the defrost button after starting and a few seconds later, all clear. This great EWAFS system is probably important during cold seasons in cold parts of the country. Why not give me the option of controlling my driving environment rather than distracting me every few minutes?

Yes! I too am in So Cal and have terrible allergies. Ironic that I finally spent big money (to me) on a vehicle and it makes me sick to drive it!

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[Eden]

I'm going to try this on a road trip Friday night. Thank you!

Can this work without the eheat? I'm in so cal and have no need for heat 80% of the year. I have terrible allergies so the recirc switching off is a big deal to me. Ironic that I finally spent big money (to me) on a vehicle and it makes me sick to drive it!

 

[Eden]

In quiet aside:
“Honestly my HVAC stays on 65° and Auto 1.”


But it seems like if we want recirc we should be able to have it. And then can decide when to hit the defrost if the windows start fogging. But I suppose that’s just me wanting control, like of when to back up beep. ?
But that one guy in Alaska said the heating worked better when it was rewarming air from the cabin, rather than trying to warm -30° outside air. So that was my consideration.

If you can, get the PureFlow air filter for the MME. It will change your life (at least while driving the MME). It really is that good. I almost never need to turn on recirc (I used to do it on every drive).

OP: Here is what I did in my 22 Select and my recirc stays on for my entire 1.5 hour commute (each way). Temperatures have been as low as 19F with average temperature around 42F the past three weeks in West TN. I found that if I select air discharging to panel vents only (no defrost or air discharging to feet), E heat on, and recirc activated then the recirc stays on the entire time. I do not have "auto" selected. If the windows fog, then I switch to defrost (recirc turns off automatically) and let the windows defog; then I manually go back to panel discharge, E heat on, and turn on recirc. If you select panel and feet for air to discharge, recirc will time out. I found this out by trial and error.

OP: Here is what I did in my 22 Select and my recirc stays on for my entire 1.5 hour commute (each way). Temperatures have been as low as 19F with average temperature around 42F the past three weeks in West TN. I found that if I select air discharging to panel vents only (no defrost or air discharging to feet), E heat on, and recirc activated then the recirc stays on the entire time. I do not have "auto" selected. If the windows fog, then I switch to defrost (recirc turns off automatically) and let the windows defog; then I manually go back to panel discharge, E heat on, and turn on recirc. If you select panel and feet for air to discharge, recirc will time out. I found this out by trial and error.

Sadly, in So Cal I have no use for the eheat.

 

[RedOctobrrr]

Yes! I too am in So Cal and have terrible allergies. Ironic that I finally spent big money (to me) on a vehicle and it makes me sick to drive it!

Don't they have special air filters for this?

 

[Eden]

Recirc air ?

Not for me.

I roll down the windows - that's how I drive 350+ sunny days of the year.

Don't they have special air filters for this?

Don't they have special air filters for this?

I just read about that above and ordered one. Fingers crossed!!

 

[engnrng]

Sadly, in So Cal I have no use for the eheat.

Set the temp to what you want, the eheat will only go on if needed.

 

[engnrng]

OP: Here is what I did in my 22 Select and my recirc stays on for my entire 1.5 hour commute (each way). Temperatures have been as low as 19F with average temperature around 42F the past three weeks in West TN. I found that if I select air discharging to panel vents only (no defrost or air discharging to feet), E heat on, and recirc activated then the recirc stays on the entire time. I do not have "auto" selected. If the windows fog, then I switch to defrost (recirc turns off automatically) and let the windows defog; then I manually go back to panel discharge, E heat on, and turn on recirc. If you select panel and feet for air to discharge, recirc will time out. I found this out by trial and error.

I tried this on my 21 Cal Rt 1, no joy. Recirc stays on for 1 to 3 minutes, then outside stink rushes into the car - and, yes, I have the Pureflow filter. It helps some, but does not completely keep out the stench of the gas and diesel burners crowding the roads in SoCal.

 

[Eden]

I tried this on my 21 Cal Rt 1, no joy. Recirc stays on for 1 to 3 minutes, then outside stink rushes into the car - and, yes, I have the Pureflow filter. It helps some, but does not completely keep out the stench of the gas and diesel burners crowding the roads in SoCal.

Ugh. Is this something that can change with an update or are we screwed? It’s pretty much a dealbreaker at this point. Today I was having the best day until I got into my new car and got gassed. That ain’t right

 

[Auto Motive]

In quiet aside:
“Honestly my HVAC stays on 65° and Auto 1.”


But it seems like if we want recirc we should be able to have it. And then can decide when to hit the defrost if the windows start fogging. But I suppose that’s just me wanting control, like of when to back up beep. ?
But that one guy in Alaska said the heating worked better when it was rewarming air from the cabin, rather than trying to warm -30° outside air. So that was my consideration.

Ours too. Never a problem.

 

[Howard]

@engnrng: Have you received OTA 3.6.1 yet? My recirc would turn off after approximately 2 minutes prior to my car getting this update. It has stayed on since with using the dash vents only.

 

[Gustang]

OP: Here is what I did in my 22 Select and my recirc stays on for my entire 1.5 hour commute (each way). Temperatures have been as low as 19F with average temperature around 42F the past three weeks in West TN. I found that if I select air discharging to panel vents only (no defrost or air discharging to feet), E heat on, and recirc activated then the recirc stays on the entire time. I do not have "auto" selected. If the windows fog, then I switch to defrost (recirc turns off automatically) and let the windows defog; then I manually go back to panel discharge, E heat on, and turn on recirc. If you select panel and feet for air to discharge, recirc will time out. I found this out by trial and error!!!

Omg thank you I am going to try this. Huffing exhaust in traffic is the worst, and a large part of my driving experience now since switching to a Mache-e. I think it’s a little ridiculous we have to go to such lengths for something that should be as easy as a push of a button.
thanks agin for trial and error!

 

[Eden]

Sadly, in So Cal I have no use for the eheat.

Oh my god, it worked! I'd tried it a couple weeks ago with not luck but now it's been on recirc for 3 days. You are amazing Howard! Such a random fix!?

 

[Howard]

Glad I could help folks out with what I found!

 

[engnrng]

@engnrng: Have you received OTA 3.6.1 yet? My recirc would turn off after approximately 2 minutes prior to my car getting this update. It has stayed on since with using the dash vents only.

@Howard I took my March 2021 Mach E into the dealer a couple of days ago for a software recall and other updates, including Blue Cruise and an HVAC update. On my drive home that evening, I found that the Recirc stayed on with the conditions you specified. Not only that, the next time I started the car, the Recirc was still on!!!!! Although I had received a message that the HVAC update had been installed 2 or 3 months ago, this time it worked just like you said. I have Recirc control now!

 

[Howard]

@engnrng: Glad to hear it now works for you as well. Last week, I took delivery of my 23 premium MME. My feet got cold last Thursday on the drive home from work; temperature was 0F with a wind chill of -20F. I switched climate control to vent and feet with recirc and E heat on. I was amazed that the recirc stayed on the entire trip home (80 miles). On my 22 select MME, recirc has not stayed on under those conditions. I may try it again on my next trip.

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