Mileage for Extended Range Mach-E Models Revealed in EPA Emissions Certifications

[JoseLuisDeLaCruz]

I have a 2018 Chevrolet Bolt EV Premier I was really hoping for 300 miles EPA on the long range/extended battery awd model. I really hope the real world numbers are pretty close to the Model Y. I am crossing my fingers. This post with these numbers definitely have me nervous.

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[timbop]

Some encouraging news just posted in response to these EPA range discussions from Mike Levine:

" Ford fully expects EPA-certified driving range estimates for the Mustang Mach-E will deliver the targets set. More to share later this month."

That's a non-answer; he has no idea what the real numbers will be and he's just saying what he was told before

 

[kdryden99]

Says who?

Cmon coral. You already forgot the lengthy post made by trutolife27 telling everybody how how everything includin epa results are delayed. Everything was delayed by about a month. EPA longer due to Covid.

 

[RonTCat]

..and when will they be officially out? ANyone know?

Yes.

 

[kdryden99]

the report was dated october so it fits the timeline. Ford is probably working on fixing the issue now. The "insiders" on this forum as well as Ford are aware of the report as mentioned here but no official results released which means they are working on improving efficiency. Thats why @trutolife27 told everyone to calm down and Ford litterally told us that they expect to meet EXPECTED range. That pretty much tells us everything. So everybody just chill.

 

[EVer]

Cmon coral. You already forgot the lengthy post made by trutolife27 telling everybody how how everything includin epa results are delayed. Everything was delayed by about a month. EPA longer due to Covid.

But is there a known baseline for the announcement of EPA ratings?

 

[TheLight75]

Can I ask about your particular scenario? Extremely long commuter, or roadtripper?

If these EPA ranges hold tight, then I’ll likely cancel my MME order too. For me, it needs to beat the 258 mi EPA range on my existing Kona EV. My commute is 120 miles round trip. Less than 260 miles of range means I’ll need to charge almost every night with less ability for side errands along the way. All of this while spending more on electricity to fill a bigger battery.

 

[EVer]

Ford litterally told us that they expect to meet EXPECTED range.

I should hope they expect to make the expectation ?

 

[DBC]

If these EPA ranges hold tight, then I’ll likely cancel my MME order too. For me, it needs to beat the 258 mi EPA range on my existing Kona EV. My commute is 120 miles round trip. Less than 260 miles of range means I’ll need to charge almost every night with less ability for side errands along the way. All of this while spending more on electricity to fill a bigger battery.

I have no doubt the range "targets" will be met. However, the EPA range may not be indicative of actual range. For example, the Tesla S has much more -- like a whole lot more -- EPA range than the Porsche, but when tested on a track the ranges were more or less identical. IIRC your Kona punches above its weight in real world range. If Ford doesn't have the same downside as the Teslas you should be fine. But you won't know from the EPA number alone.

The battery size has nothing to do with how much electricity you'll need. Just doesn't matter other than by playing a role in per mile efficiency by adding mass. The only factor which affects your electricity costs is miles/kWh.

The other point is that the MME should provide a much more comfortable commute. Not only does the MME have a very long wheelbase, but adaptive cruise and hands-free cruise should allow you to get to work and home much less stressed.

 

[kdryden99]

But is there a known baseline for the announcement of EPA ratings?

No for example the 2021 Nissan Rogue got its certificate April 23 2020, its release date on the certificate was September 9 2020, thats 5 months and it only arrived in dealerships this week, 2 months after the the release date. The 2019 model 3 received its certificate december 18 2018, the release date was March 3, 2019. So as you can see there is generally a 3-4 month period between EPA testing and release date. Due to Covid everything was delayed. Since most of the efficiency is software based Ford can produce cars now, fix any efficiency issues and once they hit EPA numbers that theyre happy with sell to the public. They're trying to shorten the delay to release the cars asap, so just relax as @trutolife27 said

 

[bluestarct]

 

[DBC]

Whether the range is 300 miles or 270 miles or 250 miles won't have any effect on suitability for road trips. At this point the stops will be dictated by the DC chargers. If the distance between chargers is 175 miles it doesn't matter if your range is 220 miles or 250 miles or 300 miles. Unless your range is 400 - 500 miles you're stopping at 175 miles! LOL

And once you stop, the time it takes to be ready for the next 175 miles depends entirely on the efficiency -- how many miles/kWh the vehicle gets -- and how long it takes to get 175 more miles of range -- kWh/time. More range might give you a false sense of security but other than that range isn't that important.

 

[highland58]

Surely you can't be serious.

 

[bluestarct]

Surely you can't be serious.

I am serious and don't call me Shirley.

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